[SixClub] Trying to figure out WSJT...

Thu, 8 Apr 2004 19:26:22 -0500

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> -----Original Message-----
> From: [email protected]
[mailto:[email protected]]
> On Behalf Of Greg Parsons
> Sent: Thursday, April 08, 2004 6:06 PM
> To: [email protected]
> Subject: RE: [SixClub] Trying to figure out WSJT...
> 
> Tip,
>  Thanks, I should have changed the subject line myself but didn't. OK,
> lets
> break this down.
> 
> Wiring: Yes it is correct, I have used PSK31 on this radio for the
last
> few
> years on HF and once or twice on 6m and it works fine.
This is good to know that the hardware is all working and the cables
from the soundboard to radio are all right. Make sure your rx level is
about 0dB with nothing but receiver noise i.e. no signals. The green
line will hit the tics on either end and the dB can be read in the 3rd
pane from the left on the bottom status bar. (Receive Noise I think it
is labeled)When you click the "Monitor" button and wait about 3 seconds
hit "Stop" and observe the Receive Noise. Make adjustments to the
windows sliders as necessary.
> 
> Mode: Well, I am not sure what mode to use, so what I have done is set
> each
> one and then monitor it for about 15 minutes, then switch to the next,
> repeat, during the time that the random QSO hour is on.
> 
Modes: This has been a moving target as Joe has several out for testing.
I would recommend using FSK441C for Six Meters propagation mode meteor
scatter and JT65A or B for weak signal tropo. After you have made
contacts using those modes then experiment with others if you like. 
> Different Modes: No I was not aware there was an A B or C of each
mode,
> the
> version of the software I have (WJST 3.8.1) only lists FSK441, JT6M,
JT44
> and EME Echo.
> 
The latest mode of WSJT is Version 4.6.1 . I highly recommend
downloading it and there is another manual available that I think is
slightly better. Make sure your running a program to keep the clock
updated on your computer. I have mine adjusted to reset every 10
minutes. There is a Program Freeware called Dimension 4 that works
perfect for this.  By the way, when you download the new program keep
the older version because it doesnot have JT44.
> Frequencies: I have monitored from 50.255 to 50.290 all USB, I have a
bad
> birdie on .290 that I am still tracking down.
> 
For Saturday morning on six meters. Monitor 50.260MHz from 15:00 to
16:00UTC. Point your antenna towards the Ky. area. You should be
over-ran with meteor pings. Are point towards my qth, at our distance we
are able to work any day of the year provided we run for 20 minutes or
so and you have at least 100 watts into a good yagi antenna.

Part two: Other times of the week; monitor the Ping Jockey Page
activity. If you're only listening locate skeds that are occurring
within 1200 miles of your qth and monitor them. You will have to get the
frequency of the sked from the PJ Posts. Skeds are made almost daily
with morning being better and more activity on weekends.

For the "Weak Signal Mode like JT65A; remember just because your
monitoring a frequency and not hearing with the ears any signal doesn't
mean WSJT will not decode. So skeds are almost always required for JT65
unless you're working someone you can hear, in which case I guess you
could pick up the mic and talk to them. Hi

> Schedules: I have attempted one sked and they couldn't hear me nor I
them.
> 
I would be happy to sked with you. The Ping Jockey Page is dedicated to
WSJT modes. If you are unable to be "on-line" at the same time as the
sked then you can make skeds via email.  
> Tropo vs. Local: I knew it wasn't good for tropo as it was designed
for
> weaker signals, to much signal = overload.
> 

> Pings and DF: I am not sure if I have heard anything or not, and the
one
> time I thought I had the DF was about -40, I am still not sure what
that
> means.
> 
DF = of course Difference in Frequency i.e. if I read you at -100Hz you
probably see me at +100Hz. The correct procedure is start the sked with
the tol set to 400Hz. After you receive a ping that provides some
decode, maybe just on call or whatever... Note the DF. Next, move your
RIT that amount and reduce the TOL to say 100Hz. That will cause
improved copy and better satisfaction. Hi
Remember to move the RIT because the other guy might have already copied
you and made the same adjustment.

Now if I am calling CQ of 50.260 and you copy me DF -120Hz. Just set
your dial on 50.259880 and give me a call but during real time sked USE
THE RIT!

> RTFM: Yes I have, not that it made much sense, I have read it three
times
> now, some of it seems to make sense, the rest is still floating around
> waiting for the click.
> 
A couple of web sites come to mind you might look at:
www.qsl.net/wa5ufh
http://home.alltel.net/wb5apd/ 
> Thanks for what help you can give me, like I said worse comes to worse
I
> will switch to LSB and fire up some RTTY or get out the Zeus and do
some
> AM.
> 
Hey, I have made several RTTY qso's on 50.290. Greatest keyboard qso
mode of all time without a doubt. 

Greg I hope this helps some. I believe the biggest problem you were
having is not knowing when and where to listen. However make sure you
understand the Standard Operating Procedures. Take a look at them by
pushing the F5 key while WSJT is running. Meteor Scatter contacts must
meet strict requirements in order to be considered valid. All the
information about the qso should leave the house via the coax and not
the internet. 
Over the course of WSJT I have documented many things.  I have 897 total
meteor scatter qso's on six meters and the average completion time is 5
minutes. This is when the band is dead and there is plenty of room for
more operators. HiHi My completion rate is 80% with stations less than
1200 miles. My little mirage amplifier has been keyed 87 hours 23
minutes and that does not include the 220 failed contacts I have. Enough
of my stupid numbers, hope to have a sked soon with you.
73
Tip
> Greg
> ke4ooo
> EM79
> Six Club #090
> 
> 
> -----Original Message-----
> From: [email protected]
> [mailto:[email protected]]On Behalf Of Randy Tipton
> Sent: Thursday, April 08, 2004 2:03 PM
> To: [email protected]
> Subject: [SixClub] Trying to figure out WSJT...
> 
> 
> First thing I have done is change the "Subject Line" since these last
> two posts have nothing to do with the "AOL" discussion.
> 
> There is not much stated as to what part of WSJT you are having
problems
> with so I will ask a few questions and try to help.
> 
> Are you sure your "wiring is correct" i.e. good interface? Are you
able
> to copy say PSK31 signals and your transmitter is keying properly.
> 
> Are you trying to use the Weak Signal Mode JT65 or the meteor scatter
> FSK441 modes?
> 
> Are you aware that each one of the FSK441 A,B or C modes and the JT65
> A,B or C modes will not decode each other. In other words if someone
is
> sending JT65B, JT65A will not decode the messages both stations have
to
> use the same mode!
> 
> What frequencies are you listening for activity?
> 
> Have you attempted any skeds?
> 
> Are you aware that the Meteor Scatter FSK441 modes do not copy strong
> tropo signals well at all? (They were designed for meteor pings)If you
> are trying to copy a buddy across town you will probably rx 30 seconds
> of garbage.
> 
> Are you sure you have heard FSK441 Meteor Scatter Pings that have not
> decoded? If so, what was the DF? Do you know how to make adjustments
for
> DF and to reduce the tol set point.
> 
> Give me some more information and I will try to help you both with
> mastering WSJT. I have 154 unique calls worked using both FSK441 and
> JT6M and it isn't rocket science.
> 
> The last question I ask is; have you read the manual? There is a very
> good manual provided and it has lots of detail.
> 
> 
> Tip
> WA5UFH
> 
> 
> 
> 
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: [email protected]
> [mailto:[email protected]]
> > On Behalf Of Jerry R
> > Sent: Thursday, April 08, 2004 10:09 AM
> > To: [email protected]
> > Subject: Re: [SixClub] 24 hours or I move to a provider
> >
> > Greg When you figure out what you been doing wrong let me know i too
> > cannot decode anything on wsjt either  Jerry kc0hln en32
> >
> > ----- Original Message -----
> > From: Greg A. Parsons
> > Sent: Thursday, April 08, 2004 8:11 AM
> > To: [email protected]
> > Subject: Re: [SixClub] 24 hours or I move to a provider
> >
> > That's right,
> > And what is with all this clicking stuff? I still remember the first
> day I
> > saw
> > a html page, that was so neat. But then again I was on the net when
> dirt
> > was
> > new, back in 84 it was all text and we lived in the land of Unix,
but
> that
> > is
> > niether here nor there. So, where is the big book of how to get WSJT
> > working
> > right on 6m? I have been playing with it, but as of yet nothing, I
am
> not
> > sure
> > if I am not holding my mouth right or what. I figure worse come to
> worse I
> > can
> > do a little RTTY on 6m and watch every one freak.
> > Greg
> > ke4ooo
> > EM79
> >
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