[SFDXA] Why W3LPL spots are undesired

[Norm Alexander]

The following exchange between W3LPL and N7DC reveals why I do not find LPL spots useful.  They are usually on my 'block' list.

Norm W4QN


From: N7DC <n7dc at comcast.net>
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>I noticed spots from W3LPL suddenly were telling us that the spots he 
>was making were being heard in "other" places, such as the one just now 
>"Heard in M and NC" others have been noted as being heard all across the 
>USA.  I asked him why he was spotting for other people, and after 
>several emails, iI received the below exchange.  I find that totally 
>bypassing the idea of spotting, on selected Spot Sources.  I did not 
>select him as a spot source, but his spotting this way, is going thru 
>the whole system, and not just thru the skimmer network.  I had assumed 
>that everything he sent, was being heard by him, until he made this 
>change a couple of days ago.
>I now will delete ALL his spots, even though a few of them have been 
>useful, being he lives somewhat near me.  This is very disappointing. 
>Sometimes the technology gets away from us, and makes other technology 
>useless to work with it.
>
>Looking  at SpotCollector Config, I only see a line called Packet 
>Cluster, and have put a check in the hide box, and put W3LPL, in the 
>call sign box.  If this is not correct, will someone please let me 
>know.   I am sure I will find out sooner or later, if his spots 
>continue, But still will not know the proper way of filtering him out.
>
>This was his final comment, in regard to our exchanges of email, and 
>mine is to filter him out.
>
>"The operation of the W3LPL automatic spotter has not changed at all for 
>the last two years.  Thats right, no changes at all.     None!
>Adding the new comment field has absolutely no affect on how the spotter 
>works.   The  O N L Y  change is adding the comment field, nothing else.
>Prior to adding the comment field  you just didn't know that some of the 
>spots originated from CW Skimmers on the west coast.
>
>The automatic spotter takes its input from the entire Reverse Beacon 
>Network (about 100 skimmers), not just from my local antennas here in 
>Maryland.
>It spots DX stations heard by CW Skimmers located anywhere in the USA. 
>Thats the way it has  A L W A Y S  worked, now you're just aware of it.
>
>okay? "
>
>I hate to have to do it, but I cannot abide with spots being made, by 
>someone who didnt hear the spotted station.  It is an explanation why he 
>was hearing so many staiton I never heard - except for his big antennas!
>
>> *From:* donovanf at starpower.net
>> *Date:* Monday, May 20, 2013 9:22 PM
>> *To:* N7DC <n7dc at comcast.net>
>> *Subject:* spots
>> Hi Danny,
>>
>> The operation of the W3LPL automatic spotter has not changed at all 
>> for the last two years.  Thats right, no changes at all.     None!
>> Adding the new comment field has absolutely no affect on how the 
>> spotter works.   The  O N L Y  change is adding the comment field, 
>> nothing else.
>> Prior to adding the comment field  you just didn't know that some of 
>> the spots originated from CW Skimmers on the west coast.
>>
>> The automatic spotter takes its input from the entire Reverse Beacon 
>> Network (about 100 skimmers), not just from my local antennas here in 
>> Maryland.
>> It spots DX stations heard by CW Skimmers located anywhere in the 
>> USA.  Thats the way it has  A L W A Y S  worked, now you're just aware 
>> of it.
>>
>> okay?
>>
>> 73
>> Frank
>> W3LPL
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> ----------------------------------------------------------
>> *From: *"N7DC" <n7dc at comcast.net>
>> *To: *donovanf at starpower.net
>> *Sent: *Tuesday, May 21, 2013 2:15:16 AM
>> *Subject: *Re: spots
>>
>>
>>
>> Well Frank, I  could have done that before, but your spots have 
>> generally been very good for me here, since we are close enough 
>> together, that I see them, and start listening, and within about 15-30 
>> minutes I often hear your spotted station.  I would hate to lose that 
>> capability.  I just dont understand why you are telling us of someone 
>> else that is hearing the station.   I want to know who nearby is 
>> hearing the station, and of course that is also the reason the 
>> software has the capability to set distances.   I understand, and have 
>> understood from the beginning of 2 meter nets, that spots are made by 
>> those who hear the station, and we lookers-on go by that information, 
>> to make the spots useful for us.  Its much the same for those who spot 
>> themselves.  It doesnt mean they are heard anywhere near me.
>>
>>
>>
>> *From:* N7DC <n7dc at comcast.net>
>> *Date:* Monday, May 20, 2013 9:15 PM
>> *To:* donovanf at starpower.net
>> *Subject:* spots
>>
>>
>> Well Frank, I  could have done that before, but your spots have 
>> generally been very good for me here, since we are close enough 
>> together, that I see them, and start listening, and within about 15-30 
>> minutes I often hear your spotted station.  I would hate to lose that 
>> capability.  I just dont understand why you are telling us of someone 
>> else that is hearing the station.   I want to know who nearby is 
>> hearing the station, and of course that is also the reason the 
>> software has the capability to set distances.   I understand, and have 
>> understood from the beginning of 2 meter nets, that spots are made by 
>> those who hear the station, and we lookers-on go by that information, 
>> to make the spots useful for us.  Its much the same for those who spot 
>> themselves.  It doesnt mean they are heard anywhere near me.
>>
>>
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