[ScanIndiana] ADMIN: BS laws

tghoover at iquest.net tghoover at iquest.net
Mon Jan 24 09:28:05 EST 2005


It proves my point that there are dumb laws Ie.IC-35-44-3-12 Illegal use of a 
Police Scanner 

> What in the world does a law on the books in Evansville have to do with
> IC-35-44-3-12 Illegal use of a Police Scanner,Eating Hamburgers on
> Sunday???Im am so sorry but this has nothing to do with a Police Scanner in a
> car,If you are a Ham Radio Operator by STATE LAW you are covered and exempt,
> but on the other hand if you are not a Ham Radio Operator and you get stopped
> by a Law Enforcement Officer and he does see the radio ,by state law if you
> do not have the proper paper work or a letter signed by the Chief Law
> Enforcement Officer in the county you live in, you are in violation of
> 35-44-3-12,This is the reason why I carry a copy of the Burns Statute
> 35-44-3-12 with me in my car at "all Times",For everyones infomation a couple
> of months ago, we had a "Ham Radio Operator" Stopped  in Indianapolis by a
> officer with Indianapolis Police Department on the east side of Indianapolis
> beacuse the officer  walked up to his car  after he stopped the car , he told
> the person that he had 
>  a Illegal Police Radio in his car,The radio in question was a 2 meter ham
> radio mobile that would not go out of band, the person told the officer that
> he was a Ham Radio Operator and showed him his license,The officer was told
> by a Communications Supervisor that "The radio is not a Police scanner" it is
> a Ham 2 meter radio, After hearing this from the Communications Supervisor on
> his radio, the officer returned to the car he had stopped and he told the
> person he had not ever so him again  in the area or his radio would be taken
> from him and he would go to jail.The new officers that are just comming out
> of road school or ILEA do not care, all they want to do is chase red lights
> and pull over people who have more than one antenna on the car,Example Carmel
> Police pulling over a unmarked Indiana State Police Trooper who had many
> antennas on his car,How many Carmel Police Officers did it take to do this,5
> of them !!! My point is this, ALWAYS CARRY A COPY OF 35-44-3-12 with you an
>  d if you are stopped by a Officer show him your copy of the law,It is
> available to the public thru the public library under Indiana Law, go to
> Title 35 and look for 35-44-3-12.Trying to keep everyone out of trouble!!!!!!
> I am not a  legal person but being a former Law Enforcement Officer this is
> the way the law reads,Sorry to bump heads with everyone but this is my view
> on this subject at hand.....Thank You,Tim DeLong W9NES Ham Radio
> Operator,Indianapolis,Indiana
> 
> 
> > I too have used VOX to record overnight traffic or if I was at work and
> > didn't want to miss something.
> > 
> > I couldn't resist adding my $00.02 worth on the mobile scanner issue in
> > Indiana
> > 
> > Do I personally agree with the current law as written?  -  NO
> > 
> > Do I abide by it? - Not really
> > 
> > Am I gambling with loosing a radio or two, court cost, attorney fees?  -
> Yes
> > 
> > Do I care? - No I do not and NOBODY **AND I DO MEAN NOBODY** can change my
> > mind!
> > 
> > If I choose to break the law, I am willing to accept any and all
> punishment
> > handed down no matter how harsh.
> > 
> > Why do I feel like that I am an American, this is America where we are
> free
> > to choose right or wrong.
> > 
> > Do I blame the Police Officer who stopped me or conviscates the radio(s)?
> -
> > No he's just doing his job, we pay him to enforce the laws.
> > 
> > Are all laws fair and proper? - not !
> > 
> > In my home town of Evansville Indiana there is a law on the books that
> say's
> > " Hamburgers can't be sold on Sunday"  I have yet to see anyone arrested
> at
> > McDonalds, Burger King or anywhere else in Evansville, Is it a good law
> Hell
> > No, If eating hamburgers on Sunday in Evansville Indiana is illegal then I
> > am a habitial offender and should be given life in prison at hard labor
> for
> > the number of illegal burgers I have consumed over the years.
> > 
> > Do I obey the posted speed limit No not usually, do I blame anyone if I
> get
> > stopped and ticketed? - Yes Who do I Blame? - Me.
> > 
> > Just my $00.02 worth
> > 
> > Keep on Scanning
> > 
> > 
> > Just an FYI - I am studying for my Amatuer Radio Ticket, not only too make
> a
> > little more legal on the scanner side of things, CB radio, FMRS, are still
> > too crowded, unruly,..
> > 
> > Terry
> > 
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: scanindiana-bounces at mailman.qth.net
> > [mailto:scanindiana-bounces at mailman.qth.net]On Behalf Of Dave Diehl
> > Sent: Sunday, January 23, 2005 10:08 AM
> > To: Indiana Scanning
> > Subject: Re: [ScanIndiana] ADMIN: BS laws
> > 
> > 
> > > before the PC was quite so common and before so many
> > > people had email at home -
> > 
> > 300 baud modem and a Radio Shack Pro36...  Took the 36 and hooked it to a
> > voice activated recorder so I could hear what was going on during the
> > night...  ...dedication...
> > 
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