[Scan-DC] New secure channel for MCFRS

[Joel Kahn]

The EMRC (72) channels are not used for every transport and when used, it is a "call" channel and after the unit tells EMRC who they wan to consul with, they are then referred to a 79 channel with the hospital. 
The main reason to use the 72 channel is that it is recorded, so they can have a transcript if they need it.  also to arrange multiple consults, such as a trauma center and Children's for a peds trauma patient. Joel R Kahn

      From: Jeff Krauss <jeff at krauss.ws>
 To: Joe Bradley <ltbrown122 at aol.com>; Ed Tobias <edtobias at comcast.net> 
Cc: scan-dc at mailman.qth.net
 Sent: Thursday, July 7, 2016 7:46 PM
 Subject: Re: [Scan-DC] New secure channel for MCFRS
   
So what's the point of securing the 79 zone when 
the detailed patient info comes over 72D?


At 07:34 PM 7/7/2016, Joe Bradley wrote:
>Ed,
>
>You are correct - 72 Charlie, Delta, Echo are 
>patched into EMRC - that's why if you listen to 
>it you can hear other consults go thru the 
>channel or on the med radio channels. Things 
>said on the 79 channels are not recorded - but 
>it's just for hospital notification. For 
>instance at Shady Grove the charge nurse has a 
>portable radio at her desk. But if you consult 
>they move into the med room behind where where 
>the charge nurse desk is and they have a base 
>station that looks like a telephone you pick up, 
>but the consult is also heard thru the speaker.
>
>If you listen regularly - you might hear a moco 
>unit ask the dispatcher to relay transport info 
>to the hospital because they are not picking up 
>on the 79's. They are usually then advised to go 
>thru EMRC to make notification so the dispatcher doesn't have to call the ER.
>
>But don't believe EMRC Channels would be 
>encrypted because the entire system would have 
>the be done and many many jurisdictions are 
>still using the older UHF med radios to do their consults.
>
>Joe Bradley
>(240) 793-2431
>
>
> > On Jul 7, 2016, at 19:15, Ed Tobias <edtobias at comcast.net> wrote:
> >
> > Jeff,
> >
> > It's been a while since I've listened to 
> MCFRS directly, rather than via the Internet, 
> but I think that 72D is a TG for consults, 
> rather than just simple transport 
> notifications.  This TG is under the control of 
> the Maryland Emergency Medical Services' (MEMS) 
> Emergency Medical Resource Center (EMRC). EMRC 
> acts as a "traffic controller" for consults 
> between the EMS units in the field and the 
> appropriate medical facility.  (It also records 
> the consults, if I remember correctly). It does 
> this statewide.  So, I'd guess, every EMS unit 
> and hospital in the state would have to have 
> their radios encrypted in order for 72D to go encrypted.
> >
> > I may be all wrong about this, of course, but 
> I'll bet Joe Bradley, who's on this group, will know.
> >
> > Ed
> >
> > -----Original Message----- From: Jeff Krauss
> > Sent: Thursday, July 07, 2016 5:03 PM
> > To: Ed Tobias ; scan-dc at mailman.qth.net
> > Subject: Re: [Scan-DC] New secure channel for MCFRS
> >
> > What about 72D?
> > That's where I hear a lot of hospital consults.
> >
> > At 04:54 PM 7/7/2016, Ed Tobias wrote:
> >> FYI, Montgomery County Fire Rescue is in the 
> process of switching its Zone 79 channels, 
> (e.g. 79 Alpha, 79 Bravo) to encrypted.  79 is 
> the Talk Group which county EMS units use to 
> provide hospital transport information. I̢۪m 
> surprised this wasn̢۪t done sooner sooner, 
> considering HIIPA restrictions on release of 
> medical info. Ed 
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