[Scan-DC] New secure channel for MCFRS

[Cathy Drzyzgula]

I suppose it makes some sense to make it a little harder to find out where victims are transported. Especially for assaults and domestic violence cases. I heard one call go out last week where a victim said his attacker had followed to the hospital. Don't know if that turned out to be true or not.  Obviously names are said on the air when licenses are run on the police side.

I've always thought the biggest concern should be over access to info on the extent of injury.

Cathy D

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From: Joe Bradley via Scan-DC <scan-dc at mailman.qth.net>
Sent: Jul 7, 2016 8:08 PM
To: Ed Tobias
Cc: Jeff Krauss; scan-dc at mailman.qth.net
Subject: Re: [Scan-DC] New secure channel for MCFRS

New info - the 79's are recorded just not recorded by EMRC. The radios themselves have been encryption capable for 2 years so it's really not costing anything but the time to do it.

No idea why now......Everyone has a lawyer and they love to give advice....

Joe Bradley
(240) 793-2431


> On Jul 7, 2016, at 19:59, Ed Tobias <edtobias at comcast.net> wrote:
>
> I suspect it's because they have the money and someone thought it would look good to do it.  Seems to me it's overkill, since the names of the patients aren't put out over the air on any TG anyway.
>
> Ed
>
> -----Original Message----- From: Jeff Krauss
> Sent: Thursday, July 07, 2016 7:46 PM
> To: Joe Bradley ; Ed Tobias
> Cc: scan-dc at mailman.qth.net
> Subject: Re: [Scan-DC] New secure channel for MCFRS
>
> So what's the point of securing the 79 zone when
> the detailed patient info comes over 72D?
>
>
> At 07:34 PM 7/7/2016, Joe Bradley wrote:
>> Ed,
>>
>> You are correct - 72 Charlie, Delta, Echo are patched into EMRC - that's why if you listen to it you can hear other consults go thru the channel or on the med radio channels. Things said on the 79 channels are not recorded - but it's just for hospital notification. For instance at Shady Grove the charge nurse has a portable radio at her desk. But if you consult they move into the med room behind where where the charge nurse desk is and they have a base station that looks like a telephone you pick up, but the consult is also heard thru the speaker.
>>
>> If you listen regularly - you might hear a moco unit ask the dispatcher to relay transport info to the hospital because they are not picking up on the 79's. They are usually then advised to go thru EMRC to make notification so the dispatcher doesn't have to call the ER.
>>
>> But don't believe EMRC Channels would be encrypted because the entire system would have the be done and many many jurisdictions are still using the older UHF med radios to do their consults.
>>
>> Joe Bradley
>> (240) 793-2431
>>
>>
>> > On Jul 7, 2016, at 19:15, Ed Tobias <edtobias at comcast.net> wrote:
>> >
>> > Jeff,
>> >
>> > It's been a while since I've listened to
>> MCFRS directly, rather than via the Internet, but I think that 72D is a TG for consults, rather than just simple transport notifications.  This TG is under the control of the Maryland Emergency Medical Services' (MEMS) Emergency Medical Resource Center (EMRC). EMRC acts as a "traffic controller" for consults between the EMS units in the field and the appropriate medical facility.  (It also records the consults, if I remember correctly). It does this statewide.  So, I'd guess, every EMS unit and hospital in the state would have to have their radios encrypted in order for 72D to go encrypted.
>> >
>> > I may be all wrong about this, of course, but
>> I'll bet Joe Bradley, who's on this group, will know.
>> >
>> > Ed
>> >
>> > -----Original Message----- From: Jeff Krauss
>> > Sent: Thursday, July 07, 2016 5:03 PM
>> > To: Ed Tobias ; scan-dc at mailman.qth.net
>> > Subject: Re: [Scan-DC] New secure channel for MCFRS
>> >
>> > What about 72D?
>> > That's where I hear a lot of hospital consults.
>> >
>> > At 04:54 PM 7/7/2016, Ed Tobias wrote:
>> >> FYI, Montgomery County Fire Rescue is in the
>> process of switching its Zone 79 channels, (e.g. 79 Alpha, 79 Bravo) to encrypted.  79 is the Talk Group which county EMS units use to provide hospital transport information. I̢۪m surprised this wasn̢۪t done sooner sooner, considering HIIPA restrictions on release of medical info. Ed ______________________________________________________________ Scan-DC mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/scan-dc Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Scan-DC at mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html
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