[Scan-DC] BACKPACKS

Sean Hoyden sean.hoyden at gmail.com
Tue May 7 00:19:13 EDT 2013


Reminds me of the time I was crossing the border between Cornwall, Ontario
and Massena, NY.  Some college buddies and myself were coming back from the
strip clubs.

"You guys bringing anything back with you?"

"Do you count the half dozen french fries, half eaten cheeseburger and the
three massive hard ons?"

"No, there's no duty on any of those, you gentlemen have a nice evening."

He was laughing out loud as we drove away.

Ahh the good ole days.




On Tue, May 7, 2013 at 12:05 AM, Doug Kitchener <oldsdoug at yahoo.com> wrote:

> Reminds me of a story... years ago went with the then-girlfriend, who was
> a convention planner, to Toronto over Labor Day weekend.  It was an
> expense-paid thing for her and a guest, compliments of the convention and
> tourism bureau there, to wine and dine meeting planners, they even paid for
> the plane tickets on Allegheny.  Lots of non-stop activities, tours,
> cocktail hours, big dinners in hotels, receptions, champagne brunch on a
> river cruise, a whole bunch of dressy stuff, so we both had a lot of
> clothes / luggage.  There was alcohol at every function so we were more or
> less under the influence the whole time.
>
> Coming home through customs back into the US, I had a large suitcase, a
> hangup bag, and probably something else, a tote bag or something.
>
> Guy says, "What's in the bags?"
> Me (surprised; what did he think was in them?):  "Dirty clothes."  (Maybe
> a little in the tone of "What the hell do you think is in them?", because
> that was exactly what I thought - but I wasn't disrespectful or anything
> like that.)
>
> He gets all bent out of shape, I can't remember what was said, _plus_, the
> girlfriend is going at me in the other ear - WTF?  To this day, I can't
> think of a better answer and I have no idea what either one of them was
> expecting!
>
> Sheesh...
>
> Regards,
>
> Doug
>
>
>
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> > From: Shawn P. Stokes <shawn.stokes at dlvfrd.org>
> > To: "" <Scan-DC at mailman.qth.net>
> > Cc:
> > Sent: Monday, May 6, 2013 10:06 AM
> > Subject: Re: [Scan-DC] BACKPACKS
> >
> > Will the conspiracy theorists please sit down.
> >
> > I'm sitting on a United 757 coming back from Orlando from a weekend trip.
> > Between the backpack at my feet and the roller board in the closet ahead
> > of me I have:
> >
> > This MacBook
> > TH-F6A Dual Band portable
> > BCD396XT
> > Programming cable with USB adapter for the 396
> > Hershey Kiss V/U antenna with SMA adapter attached
> > Two packs of enloop batteries on top of whats in the two mentioned radios
> > The charger including the 110 and 12V cables for the enloops
> > Coiled 12V Cable for charging the iPhone
> > An air card hotspot
> > The 110V charger for the air card and the iPhone
> > A PPT clicker with a laser in it
> > The charger block for the Mac
> > A set of headphones
> > An ear bud for the F6
> > Gifts, dirty drawers, gels, liquids and a partridge in a pear tree
> >
> > Carried it through security at Dulles and Orlando, listened to the 396 on
> > the headphones for 2.5 hours at IAD both in the UA Club and in the
> > concourse.  Questions from TSA or any LEO (MWAA, OPD or other).  ZERO.
> >
> > Folks, some people, some places, they are going to be over the top.  It
> is
> > what it is. The majority doesn't care, if you carry yourself in a
> > professional, respectable manner, don't draw attention to yourself and
> > when approached, be decent.
> >
> > People are their own worse enemyŠŠŠŠŠ
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > On 5/6/13 12:07 AM, "Doug Kitchener" <oldsdoug at yahoo.com> wrote:
> >
> >> No backpacks, but any other kind of bag is allowed... good.
> >>
> >> It's only a matter of time before the radios (batteries, etc) will be
> >> disallowed... I question whether some of the "securities" would
> > know what
> >> some of our toys are... several guys here have been hassled regularly
> >> when taking scanners into sports events, Amtrak stations, etc.  I think
> >> there was a big discussion one time with one guy who couldn't make
> >> someone understand the difference between a two-way radio and a
> >> receiver...
> >>
> >>
> >> And remember the Underwear B*mb** and the Shoe B*mb**?  I can see people
> >> having to go through a strip search to get into the Kennedy Center.
> >>
> >>
> >> An IED doesn't have to get "inside" an "event"...
> > with everyone waiting
> >> to go _through_ security, plenty of damage can be done to the folks
> >> waiting around.
> >>
> >>
> >> Unfortunately we can't have 100% protection, but a lot of this stuff is
> >> just knee-jerk reactions.
> >>
> >> I suppose the airlines / TSA will get all crazy and tighten up again
> too.
> >>
> >> I'm planning to visit the midWest this summer... was on the fence about
> >> whether to fly or drive... had pretty much decided to drive but was
> still
> >> maybe 10 - 15% in doubt...
> >>
> >>
> >> I'm driving.  Thanks for helping me to decide that.
> >>
> >> Shit, I'm paranoid just writing about this stuff.
> >>
> >> "Eraine Bennis... you on our rist!"
> >>
> >>
> >> DK
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >> ----- Original Message -----
> >>>  From: "merlin at merlinjacobs.com"
> > <merlin at merlinjacobs.com>
> >>>  To: johnson at cpcug.org; Scan-DC at mailman.qth.net
> >>>  Cc:
> >>>  Sent: Sunday, May 5, 2013 10:13 PM
> >>>  Subject: Re: [Scan-DC] BACKPACKS
> >>>
> >>>  It's going to get to the point where we can't have baby
> > strollers,
> >>>  purses, back packs, bottle water , and we will have to empty our
> bowels
> >>> before
> >>>  each event. This is such over kill.
> >>>
> >>>  -----Original Message----- From: johnson at cpcug.org
> >>>  Sent: Sunday, May 05, 2013 10:34 PM
> >>>  To: Scan-DC at mailman.qth.net
> >>>  Subject: [Scan-DC] BACKPACKS
> >>>
> >>>  All -
> >>>
> >>>  The latest "protection" security people seems to have
> > implemented is
> >>>  to
> >>>  not allow backpacks to outdoors events.
> >>>
> >>>  At a local event for the Cinco de Mayo festivities here in Denver the
> >>>  "security" personnel did not allow attendees to take in
> > backpacks.
> >>>  Yet, I
> >>>  saw plenty of camera bags, sport bags and strollers with each one
> >>> capable
> >>>  of carrying a load of explosives being allowed onto the event grounds.
> >>>  True, the bags were checked as was my backpack until the guy
> remembered
> >>> no
> >>>  backpacks allowed but if you wanted, you could easily bring in an
> >>>  explosive device hidden in those bags under the gym shorts, baby
> >>> nappies,
> >>>  etc.
> >>>
> >>>  I was lucky that I was not too far from my vehicle so it was only a
> > five
> >>>  minute walk each way but, nonetheless, it was irksome for the usual
> >>>  implementation of a whimsical and flippant move for "security.
> >>>
> >>>  I carry the radios, notebook and extra battery packs in the backpack
> so
> >>>  now I need to get some cargo pants to carry the stuff.
> >>>
> >>>  I imagine the 5 and 10 K races and the Marine Marathon will be locked
> >>> down
> >>>  for "security" at their scheduled time.  The Marine Memorial
> > has
> >>>  always
> >>>  been locked down for the Marathon but I guess the whole route will now
> >>> be
> >>>  and radio amateurs who help will need to be on site the night before
> > and
> >>>  have a security clearance before participating!
> >>>
> >>>  Ralph Johnson
> >>>  Denver, CO
> >>>
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