[Scan-DC] BACKPACKS

Tue May 7 00:05:59 EDT 2013

Reminds me of a story... years ago went with the then-girlfriend, who was a convention planner, to Toronto over Labor Day weekend.  It was an expense-paid thing for her and a guest, compliments of the convention and tourism bureau there, to wine and dine meeting planners, they even paid for the plane tickets on Allegheny.  Lots of non-stop activities, tours, cocktail hours, big dinners in hotels, receptions, champagne brunch on a river cruise, a whole bunch of dressy stuff, so we both had a lot of clothes / luggage.  There was alcohol at every function so we were more or less under the influence the whole time.

Coming home through customs back into the US, I had a large suitcase, a hangup bag, and probably something else, a tote bag or something.

Guy says, "What's in the bags?"
Me (surprised; what did he think was in them?):  "Dirty clothes."  (Maybe a little in the tone of "What the hell do you think is in them?", because that was exactly what I thought - but I wasn't disrespectful or anything like that.)

He gets all bent out of shape, I can't remember what was said, _plus_, the girlfriend is going at me in the other ear - WTF?  To this day, I can't think of a better answer and I have no idea what either one of them was expecting!

Sheesh...

Regards,

Doug

----- Original Message -----
> From: Shawn P. Stokes <shawn.stokes at dlvfrd.org>
> To: "" <Scan-DC at mailman.qth.net>
> Cc: 
> Sent: Monday, May 6, 2013 10:06 AM
> Subject: Re: [Scan-DC] BACKPACKS
> 
> Will the conspiracy theorists please sit down.
> 
> I'm sitting on a United 757 coming back from Orlando from a weekend trip.
> Between the backpack at my feet and the roller board in the closet ahead
> of me I have: 
> 
> This MacBook
> TH-F6A Dual Band portable
> BCD396XT
> Programming cable with USB adapter for the 396
> Hershey Kiss V/U antenna with SMA adapter attached
> Two packs of enloop batteries on top of whats in the two mentioned radios
> The charger including the 110 and 12V cables for the enloops
> Coiled 12V Cable for charging the iPhone
> An air card hotspot
> The 110V charger for the air card and the iPhone
> A PPT clicker with a laser in it
> The charger block for the Mac
> A set of headphones
> An ear bud for the F6
> Gifts, dirty drawers, gels, liquids and a partridge in a pear tree
> 
> Carried it through security at Dulles and Orlando, listened to the 396 on
> the headphones for 2.5 hours at IAD both in the UA Club and in the
> concourse.  Questions from TSA or any LEO (MWAA, OPD or other).  ZERO.
> 
> Folks, some people, some places, they are going to be over the top.  It is
> what it is. The majority doesn't care, if you carry yourself in a
> professional, respectable manner, don't draw attention to yourself and
> when approached, be decent.
> 
> People are their own worse enemyŠŠŠŠŠ
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> On 5/6/13 12:07 AM, "Doug Kitchener" <oldsdoug at yahoo.com> wrote:
> 
>> No backpacks, but any other kind of bag is allowed... good.
>> 
>> It's only a matter of time before the radios (batteries, etc) will be
>> disallowed... I question whether some of the "securities" would 
> know what
>> some of our toys are... several guys here have been hassled regularly
>> when taking scanners into sports events, Amtrak stations, etc.  I think
>> there was a big discussion one time with one guy who couldn't make
>> someone understand the difference between a two-way radio and a
>> receiver...
>> 
>> 
>> And remember the Underwear B*mb** and the Shoe B*mb**?  I can see people
>> having to go through a strip search to get into the Kennedy Center.
>> 
>> 
>> An IED doesn't have to get "inside" an "event"... 
> with everyone waiting
>> to go _through_ security, plenty of damage can be done to the folks
>> waiting around.
>> 
>> 
>> Unfortunately we can't have 100% protection, but a lot of this stuff is
>> just knee-jerk reactions.
>> 
>> I suppose the airlines / TSA will get all crazy and tighten up again too.
>> 
>> I'm planning to visit the midWest this summer... was on the fence about
>> whether to fly or drive... had pretty much decided to drive but was still
>> maybe 10 - 15% in doubt...
>> 
>> 
>> I'm driving.  Thanks for helping me to decide that.
>> 
>> Shit, I'm paranoid just writing about this stuff.
>> 
>> "Eraine Bennis... you on our rist!"
>> 
>> 
>> DK
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> ----- Original Message -----
>>>  From: "merlin at merlinjacobs.com" 
> <merlin at merlinjacobs.com>
>>>  To: johnson at cpcug.org; Scan-DC at mailman.qth.net
>>>  Cc: 
>>>  Sent: Sunday, May 5, 2013 10:13 PM
>>>  Subject: Re: [Scan-DC] BACKPACKS
>>> 
>>>  It's going to get to the point where we can't have baby 
> strollers,
>>>  purses, back packs, bottle water , and we will have to empty our bowels
>>> before 
>>>  each event. This is such over kill.
>>> 
>>>  -----Original Message----- From: johnson at cpcug.org
>>>  Sent: Sunday, May 05, 2013 10:34 PM
>>>  To: Scan-DC at mailman.qth.net
>>>  Subject: [Scan-DC] BACKPACKS
>>> 
>>>  All -
>>> 
>>>  The latest "protection" security people seems to have 
> implemented is
>>>  to
>>>  not allow backpacks to outdoors events.
>>> 
>>>  At a local event for the Cinco de Mayo festivities here in Denver the
>>>  "security" personnel did not allow attendees to take in 
> backpacks.
>>>  Yet, I
>>>  saw plenty of camera bags, sport bags and strollers with each one
>>> capable
>>>  of carrying a load of explosives being allowed onto the event grounds.
>>>  True, the bags were checked as was my backpack until the guy remembered
>>> no
>>>  backpacks allowed but if you wanted, you could easily bring in an
>>>  explosive device hidden in those bags under the gym shorts, baby
>>> nappies,
>>>  etc.
>>> 
>>>  I was lucky that I was not too far from my vehicle so it was only a 
> five
>>>  minute walk each way but, nonetheless, it was irksome for the usual
>>>  implementation of a whimsical and flippant move for "security.
>>> 
>>>  I carry the radios, notebook and extra battery packs in the backpack so
>>>  now I need to get some cargo pants to carry the stuff.
>>> 
>>>  I imagine the 5 and 10 K races and the Marine Marathon will be locked
>>> down
>>>  for "security" at their scheduled time.  The Marine Memorial 
> has
>>>  always
>>>  been locked down for the Marathon but I guess the whole route will now
>>> be
>>>  and radio amateurs who help will need to be on site the night before 
> and
>>>  have a security clearance before participating!
>>> 
>>>  Ralph Johnson
>>>  Denver, CO
>>> 
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