[Scan-DC] US Park PD?
Albert LaFrance
albert.lafrance at coldwar-c4i.net
Tue Mar 2 22:35:51 EST 2010
The silo is basically a microwave tower, with the dishes concealed behind
the opaque plexiglass panels around the top. It even has an elevator! The
bunker is a circular, two-level structure, about 80-100 feet in diameter,
which surrounds the basement levels of the tower.
There's a cross-section drawing on my website, based on information from a
former crew member at the DC facility (code-named CARTWHEEL):
http://coldwar-c4i.net/PEF/index.html
Albert
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From: lepine15 at comcast.net [mailto:lepine15 at comcast.net]
Sent: Tuesday, March 02, 2010 11:16 AM
To: Albert LaFrance
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That's very interesting...I always heard it was a NIKE site....There must
have been some type of underground facility, their are air ducts randomly
out in the woods.
So what was the purpose of the concrete silo?
Paul L
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From: "Albert LaFrance" <albert.lafrance at coldwar-c4i.net>
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Sent: Tuesday, March 2, 2010 10:44:04 AM GMT -05:00 US/Canada Eastern
Subject: Re: [Scan-DC] US Park PD?
Actually, the cylindrical concrete tower on Lambs Knoll was never a Nike
site. It was a classified White House emergency communications facility
code-named CORKSCREW, which provided links to Camp David, Site R and Mount
Weather. It has a sister facility (also now used by the FAA)in Fort Reno
park, in the Tenleytown neighborhood of NW DC.
I have heard the facility identified as a missile site before, and believe
this may have been a cover story propagated to local residents.
Albert LaFrance
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>
>I haven't been up to Lamb Hill in years, but before it was ATC
>is was NIKE.
>
>
>It was disassembled in the late 80's.
>
>
>
>I believe the Fire tower was on the next ridge north and east,
>on Gambrill Mt. if I am not mistaken. (AKA Frederick
>watershed), but it's since been disbanded.
>
>
>Gambrill Mt. also has other towers in place, close to the
>southern edge of the ridge for DNR use.
>
>
>Paul L
>
>----- Original Message -----
>From: djoneses at verizon.net
>To: scan-dc at mailman.qth.net
>Sent: Monday, March 1, 2010 4:02:29 PM GMT -05:00 US/Canada Eastern
>Subject: Re: [Scan-DC] US Park PD?
>
>
>For the 3rd time:
>
>
>It is on South Mountain.  It's Reno Monument 
>Rd.  The ATC facility likely has other uses.  Many
>years ago the NPS and the MD DNR repeaters were on an old fire
>tower that was often vandalized and there was a large telco
>microwave facility at the site as well.
>
>The repeater for the upper end of the canal used to be located
>on a hill in an apple orchard near Paw Paw WV; it may now be
>on Cacapon Mt.  This repeater is required to allow
>coverage west of Sideling Hill.  There was also remote
>receiver for the lower end of the canal located atop the
>Defense Mapping facility on MacArthur Blvd at the DC line.
>
>At one time USPP had a Ch. 3 repeater, which was linked to Ch.
>2, at the WSSC plant near Potomac, MD which allowed portable
>coverage on the canal in the area of Great Falls and
>west.  Don't know if this still exists or not.
>
>David
>
>
>
>On Mar 1, 2010, t11spanner <t11spanner at gmail.com> wrote:
>
>Lambs Knoll is located at the top of the hill that Reno
>Mountain road runs along in Washington County.
>
>The Frederick County MSP repeater, some other repeaters, a
>"Air Traffic Control" facility, and some other stuff is up there.
>
>I believe that the microwave for Manassas Battlefield and
>Prince William Forest, to download to C&O Canal is located up
>there now too.
>
>Carl
>--------------------------------------------------
>From: "Doug Kitchener" <oldsdoug at hotmail.com>
>Sent: Monday, March 01, 2010 11:05 AM
>To: <scan-dc at mailman.qth.net>
>Subject: Re: [Scan-DC] US Park PD?
>
>>
>> Thanks to all... have just put all those freqs in the BC-396.
>>
>> Ed, like you, I remember the "whole thing" in MD being called the
>> Maryland side... and I still think of it that way... when
>writing the
>> original email, I had to look at yahoo maps to determine what roads
>> were called what... now if I can only remember that! (Wonder when it
>> changed... I didn't think it was all that long ago, but
>tempus really
>> does fugit!)
>>
>> Also, yeah, I recently saw a US Park PD cruiser working
>radar there at
>> Little Falls... he'da got me if the guy in front of me hadn't been
>> going slow. (Seems to me that they jink the speed limit up and down
>> through there... I thought at one time that most of it was
>55 and now
>> I think some places are as low as 35...
>>
>> One last question... one of the frequencies given in RR for
>C&O canal
>> is tagged as Lambs Knoll... where's that? Yahoo maps didn't
>find it...
>> I'll keep looking...
>>
>> Again, thanks to all... next time a pickup augers in to the canal, I
>> should be up to date!
>>
>> ----------------------------------------
>>> Date: Mon, 1 Mar 2010 13:23:08 +0000
>>> From: edtobias at comcast.net
>>> To: scan-dc at mailman.qth.net
>>> Subject: Re: [Scan-DC] US Park PD?
>>>
>>> Like the BW Parkway and the GW Parkway, the Clara Barton Parkway is
>>> patrolled by US Park Police. I can attest to this because I was
>>> stopped by a USPP unit running radar on the Clara Barton a
>few years
>>> ago. (No, I did not get a ticket). By the way, long ago, before it
>>> was named the Clara Barton Parkway, that road used to be known as
>>> "the Maryland side of the GW Parkway".
>>>
>>> All of those units work off the same dispatch frequency of 166.925.
>>> Here are all of the USPP frequencies, from the
>RadioReference listing:
>>>
>>> Park Police
>>>
>>>
>>> Frequency Type Tone Alpha Tag Description Mode Tag
>166.72500 RM 127.3
>>> PL Park PD 1/6 Tactical/Special Events FM Federal 166.92500
>RM 127.3
>>> PL Park PD 2/7 Dispatch/Operations FM Federal 167.07500 RM 127.3 PL
>>> Park PD 3/8 Tactical/Administration FM Federal 166.85000 M 127.3 PL
>>> Park PD 4 Tactical/Special Operations FM Federal Also from
>>> RadioReference, here are the unit numbers. Either the 200
>or the 300
>>> units patrol the Clara Barton:
>>>
>>>
>>> • 100s - Central (Downtown)
>>> • 200s - George Washington Parkway • 300s - West (Rock
>>> Creek Park) • 400s - Baltimore-Washington Parkway
>• 500s
>>> - East (Anacostia, etc.) • 700s - Special Operations
>>>
>>> Ed
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> ----- Original Message -----
>>> From: "t11spanner"
>>> To: scan-dc at mailman.qth.net
>>> Sent: Monday, March 1, 2010 6:51:13 AM GMT -05:00 US/Canada Eastern
>>> Subject: Re: [Scan-DC] US Park PD?
>>>
>>> C&O is part of the National Capital Region of National Parks.
>>>
>>> They do not dispatch the Park Police, nor do they do the GW or BW
>>> parkway.
>>> Given the close proximity of those parks to the Park Police, they
>>> patrol it and dispatch it.
>>>
>>> C&O Canal, HQ'd in Hagerstown is the central dispatch
>center for the
>>> following National Parks in the Capital Region:
>>>
>>> C&O Canal,
>>> Antietam Battlefield,
>>> Monocacy Battlefield,
>>> Harpers Ferry,
>>> Catoctin Mountain Park,
>>> Manassas Battlefield,
>>> Prince William Forest,
>>> Fort McHenry
>>> Hampton Historical Site.
>>>
>>> Carl
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> --------------------------------------------------
>>> From: "David L. Wilson"
>>> Sent: Sunday, February 28, 2010 11:10 PM
>>> To: "Doug Kitchener" ;
>>> Subject: Re: [Scan-DC] US Park PD?
>>>
>>>> C&O Canal is not part of National Capital Parks nor GW Parkway
>>>> (though they probably also have those frequencies). C&O
>Canal uses a
>>>> 3 repeater linked system that has repeaters at Great Falls, Lambs
>>>> Knoll, and Cacapon Mountain.
>>>>
>>>> http://www.radioreference.com/apps/db/?aid=2695
>>>> 169.6875 repeater would have been the one to watch.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> ----- Original Message -----
>>>> From: "Doug Kitchener"
>>>> To:
>>>> Sent: Sunday, February 28, 2010 10:49 PM
>>>> Subject: [Scan-DC] US Park PD?
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Last night (Saturday), I think around 2300, Montgomery County
>>>> dispatched fire / rescue units to (I think) lock 5 at the
>C&O canal
>>>> for a vehicle in the canal... it turned out to be a pickup truck
>>>> that had been involved in robbery or burglary or something like
>>>> that, and subsequent police chase, in Ffx county. Vehicle
>turned out
>>>> to be unoccupied by the time they got there
>>>> (surprise!) and was upright... apparently the water was
>not that deep.
>>>>
>>>> I was falling asleep and gathered most of this, but didn't listen
>>>> too much after I heard all that (basically the initial report). It
>>>> was down in the Canal Road / Clara Barton Parkway / Cabin John
>>>> Parkway area.
>>>>
>>>> I _think_ I turned on the 800-meg scanner and I _think_ I
>put it on
>>>> the MCP Bethesda talkgroup (I didn't have the US Park channels
>>>> programmed into the radio but have just remedied that), but was
>>>> wondering at the time who has jurisdiction there, MCP or US Park
>>>> Police, or both... does anyone know?
>>>>
>>>> I looked on RadioReference and only see four frequencies
>for US Park...
>>>> but
>>>> then another four for National Park Service... the NPS channels are
>>>> tagged:
>>>>
>>>> National Capital Parks - Central (US Park Police Ch. 5); National
>>>> Capital Parks - East; George Washington Parkway; and National
>>>> Capital Parks - Central
>>>>
>>>> Does anyone have a little more detailed insight about how these
>>>> frequencies are used, and how the Park Police operate?
>There doesn't
>>>> seem to be any indication of different frequencies for parks /
>>>> facilities / operations in MD, DC, or VA...
>>>>
>>>> Tomorrow I'll check Alan's Capitol Hill Monitors site, I think at
>>>> least some of this has been addressed there...
>>>>
>>>> Any info would be of interest! Thanks!
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Doug
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
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