[Scan-DC] Re: Arlington P25
Andrew Clegg
w4jecom at w4je.com
Mon May 26 17:53:01 EDT 2008
Chris,
I just got home now (5:52 pm), and I am hearing routine traffic on the
digital system.
Andy
----- Original Message -----
From: "KD4EMQ" <kd4emq at aol.com>
To: <scan-dc at mailman.qth.net>
Sent: Monday, May 26, 2008 4:59 PM
Subject: RE: [Scan-DC] Re: Arlington P25
> Is anyone else hearing anything this afternoon on the new system? I have
> not heard anything for the last couple of hours.
>
> Chris
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: KD4EMQ [mailto:kd4emq at aol.com]
> Sent: Monday, May 26, 2008 4:50 PM
> To: 'w4jecom at w4je.com'
> Subject: RE: [Scan-DC] Re: Arlington P25
>
> Hi Andy:
>
> Thanks for the info.
>
> I programmed the new system in last night and it was working pretty well
> until this afternoon. I'm not hearing anything now?
>
> Any ideas?
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Andrew Clegg [mailto:w4jecom at w4je.com]
> Sent: Sunday, May 25, 2008 12:34 PM
> To: KD4EMQ; scan-dc at mailman.qth.net
> Subject: RE: [Scan-DC] Re: Arlington P25
>
> Chris,
>
> I presume you are talking about the analog simulcast of the digital
> system?
> Yes, they have problems with the dispatch side. Sometimes it's not there
> at
> all, and at other times it's there but cuts in and out badly. Also, many
> channels such as PD 1B, 1C, 1D, and others; and the fire dispatch (1A)
> don't
> seem to be on the analog simulcast at all.
>
> You need to switch to the digital scanner to get the whole story! I
> programmed my BCD396T and it seems to be tracking the system fine,
> although
> the audio quality is not as good as analog.
>
> Cheers,
> Andy
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: scan-dc-bounces at mailman.qth.net
> [mailto:scan-dc-bounces at mailman.qth.net]On Behalf Of KD4EMQ
> Sent: Sunday, May 25, 2008 10:32 AM
> To: scan-dc at mailman.qth.net
> Subject: [Scan-DC] Re: Arlington P25
>
>
> I've noticed that I can hear the PD mobile units, but I don't hear
> dispatch
> at all. In terms of FD, the only thing that I have noticed so far is that
> they are using the old 1F as 1B.
>
> I have not had a chance to program my BC296D with the new system. I
> hoping
> that it will work w/ the new system? I have the P25. Does anyone have
> the
> new info? I'm sure it's been sent out already and I missed it.
>
> Thanks!
>
> Chris
> KD43MQ
>
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> 1. RE: Blue Angels Up (Charley Armstrong)
> 2. RE: Blue Angels Up (mdmonitor1 at verizon.net)
> 3. Arlington Digital (Andrew Clegg)
> 4. Milair Logs, 20 may 08 (mdmonitor1 at verizon.net)
> 5. Montgo 2nd alarm box 30-07 (Ed Tobias)
> 6. Montgo Box 30-07 (Ed Tobias)
> 7. Flight Exercises Tonight (Thomas P. Clouse)
> 8. Arlington P25 (JOHN ANTONELLI)
> 9. Re: Arlington P25 (Euan Fisk)
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> Message: 1
> Date: Tue, 20 May 2008 15:19:09 -0400
> From: "Charley Armstrong" <armstrong.c at verizon.net>
> Subject: RE: [Scan-DC] Blue Angels Up
> To: "'Andrew'" <andrew at leyden.com>, <scan-dc at mailman.qth.net>
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> They are up and flying in Annapolis 284.25
>
> CA
> Annapolis
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: scan-dc-bounces at mailman.qth.net
> [mailto:scan-dc-bounces at mailman.qth.net] On Behalf Of Charley Armstrong
> Sent: Tuesday, May 20, 2008 2:52 PM
> To: 'Andrew'; scan-dc at mailman.qth.net
> Subject: RE: [Scan-DC] Blue Angels Up
>
> Now the Academy wants the bridge closed at 3pm.
>
> CA
> Annapolis
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Charley Armstrong [mailto:armstrong.c at verizon.net]
> Sent: Tuesday, May 20, 2008 2:09 PM
> To: 'Andrew'; 'scan-dc at mailman.qth.net'
> Subject: RE: [Scan-DC] Blue Angels Up
>
> MSP now opening the Naval Academy Bridge, but advising they may shut it
> again...
>
> CA
> Annapolis
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: scan-dc-bounces at mailman.qth.net
> [mailto:scan-dc-bounces at mailman.qth.net] On Behalf Of Charley Armstrong
> Sent: Tuesday, May 20, 2008 1:57 PM
> To: 'Andrew'; scan-dc at mailman.qth.net
> Subject: RE: [Scan-DC] Blue Angels Up
>
> AACo Special Ops reporting BA "Above us in the clouds."
>
> CA
> Annapolis
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Andrew [mailto:andrew at leyden.com]
> Sent: Tuesday, May 20, 2008 1:23 PM
> To: Charley Armstrong
> Subject: Re: [Scan-DC] Blue Angels Up
>
> They're going to turn around soon. The visibility here (Ches Beach)
> is miserable. I'm surprised their even flying.
>
>
> On May 20, 2008, at 1:00 PM, Charley Armstrong wrote:
>
>> Heard them with GiantKiler, must be enroute to Annapolis to practice
>> for
>> tomorrow's show.
>>
>> CA
>> Annapolis
>>
>>
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> Message: 2
> Date: Tue, 20 May 2008 15:35:18 -0500 (CDT)
> From: mdmonitor1 at verizon.net
> Subject: RE: [Scan-DC] Blue Angels Up
> To: Charley Armstrong <armstrong.c at verizon.net>
> Cc: 'Andrew' <andrew at leyden.com>, scan-dc at mailman.qth.net
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> B/A also using 255.2 & 237.8
>
> Ron
> Baltimore MD
> VHF/UHF: BC-895XLT/RS Pro-2045
> Diamond D-130J discone
> HF: Icom R75 & Sangean ATS 909
> 45-ft EF-SWL & 70-ft random wire
>
>
>
> On Tue, May 20, 2008 at 3:19 PM, Charley Armstrong wrote:
>
>> They are up and flying in Annapolis 284.25
>>
>> CA
>> Annapolis
>>
>>
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: scan-dc-bounces at mailman.qth.net
>> [mailto:scan-dc-bounces at mailman.qth.net] On Behalf Of Charley
>> Armstrong
>> Sent: Tuesday, May 20, 2008 2:52 PM
>> To: 'Andrew'; scan-dc at mailman.qth.net
>> Subject: RE: [Scan-DC] Blue Angels Up
>>
>> Now the Academy wants the bridge closed at 3pm.
>>
>> CA
>> Annapolis
>>
>>
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: Charley Armstrong [mailto:armstrong.c at verizon.net] Sent:
>> Tuesday, May 20, 2008 2:09 PM
>> To: 'Andrew'; 'scan-dc at mailman.qth.net'
>> Subject: RE: [Scan-DC] Blue Angels Up
>>
>> MSP now opening the Naval Academy Bridge, but advising they may shut
>> it
>> again...
>>
>> CA
>> Annapolis
>>
>>
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: scan-dc-bounces at mailman.qth.net
>> [mailto:scan-dc-bounces at mailman.qth.net] On Behalf Of Charley
>> Armstrong
>> Sent: Tuesday, May 20, 2008 1:57 PM
>> To: 'Andrew'; scan-dc at mailman.qth.net
>> Subject: RE: [Scan-DC] Blue Angels Up
>>
>> AACo Special Ops reporting BA "Above us in the clouds."
>>
>> CA
>> Annapolis
>>
>>
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: Andrew [mailto:andrew at leyden.com] Sent: Tuesday, May 20, 2008
>> 1:23 PM
>> To: Charley Armstrong
>> Subject: Re: [Scan-DC] Blue Angels Up
>>
>> They're going to turn around soon. The visibility here (Ches Beach)
>> is miserable. I'm surprised their even flying.
>>
>>
>> On May 20, 2008, at 1:00 PM, Charley Armstrong wrote:
>>
>>> Heard them with GiantKiler, must be enroute to Annapolis to practice
>>> for
>>> tomorrow's show.
>>>
>>> CA
>>> Annapolis
>>>
>>>
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> ------------------------------
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> Message: 3
> Date: Tue, 20 May 2008 18:43:45 -0400
> From: "Andrew Clegg" <w4jecom at w4je.com>
> Subject: [Scan-DC] Arlington Digital
> To: <scan-dc at mailman.qth.net>
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> This morning when I drove to work, Arlington was still using its analog
> system. Tonight on my way home, listening on my analog-only BC246T, it is
> apparent that Arlington began (sometime today, as predicted) using its
> digital system, and simulcasting the PD dispatch channel on the analog
> system. The dispatcher side sounds pure analog, while the field units
> sound
> like simulcast from digital. They probably patch the dispatch audio
> directly
>
> into the analog system, instead of simulcasting it from the digital
> channel.
>
> I have noticed, however, that the dispatcher's transmissions on the analog
> system is often partially cut off, sometimes at the beginning and
> sometimes
> at the end of the transmissions. Kind of annoying.
>
> Interestingly, listening to PD channel 1E (the records channel), that one
> sounds pure analog, in both directions. Are they using multiple radios in
> their vehicles, or some strange hybrid of digital and analog channels?
>
> At the moment, there is a large fire contingent dispatched to a street
> somewhere near my apartment (which is not unusual -- lots of false alarms
> in
>
> nearby apt buildings). What is unusual is that I have heard nothing on the
> analog fire channels. I wonder if they are not simulcasting the fire
> channels at the moment?
>
> Anyone else discover any interesting things so far?
>
> Cheers,
> Andy
>
>
>
>
> ------------------------------
>
> Message: 4
> Date: Tue, 20 May 2008 18:34:24 -0500 (CDT)
> From: mdmonitor1 at verizon.net
> Subject: [Scan-DC] Milair Logs, 20 may 08
> To: Scan DC <scan-dc at mailman.qth.net>, "Milcom (Net)"
> <milcom at mailman.qth.net>, Low Level <low-level at yahoogroups.com>
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>
> ACY-Atlantic City NJ
> ADW- Andrews AFB MD
> BW- Bay Watch-NAS PAX Area Advisory Control
> GK- Giantkiller (FACSFAC, Virginia Capes)
> MTN-Martin State Airport, Baltimore
> NXX- Willow Grove JRB PA
> PAX-NAS Patuxent River MD
> WRI-McGuire AFB NJ
> ZBW-Boston ARTCC
> ZDC- Washington ARTCC
> ZNY- New York ARTCC
>
> 1. VHF/UHF: ((Times are EDT))
>
> 0726- Southern Air 9735 (USAF contract)-calling DOV CP (134.1)
> 0756- Navy JR 567 (C-20G, VR-48, ADW)-check in w/ZDC (133.9)
> 0808- Tobor/Tabor 41 flt (sounds like, F-22s, Langley)-check into W72
> (233.7)
> 0820- Snug/Smug 51 flt (F-22s, Langley)-check out of W72 (233.7) RTB
> Langley.
> 0904- Bully flt (id as 4 X F-16s, 121st FS DC ANG ADW)-check in w/ZDC
> (281.4)
> 1015- Colt flt (A-10Cs, 104th FS MD ANG MTN)-check in w/ZNY (239.05).
> 1017- PAT 443-w/ZDC (132.55)
> 1040- Reach 71T- depart ADW (118.4). ((could be partial #))
> 1042- Axeman flt (2 X A-10Cs, 104th FS MD ANG MTN)-w/Raven Ops (347.2)
> reporting acft status prior to landing. Advises Raven Ops that Bollen
> Range is unusable due to wx. Also on sdqn freq (142.3).
> 1044- Royal 40 (C-17A 436th AMW DOV)-check in w/ZDC (132.55) at FL200.
> 1055- Belgian Air Force 612 (A-310)-land at ADW (118.4)
> 1203- Tazz 71 (KC-135RR 121ST ARG OH ANG RICKENBACKER ANGB)-on discrete
> freq (266.5) w/unheard acft arranging rendezvous times.
> 1218- Boxer 33 (C-38/C-40, 201st AS DC ANG ADW)-RTB ADW due to
> unspecified acft problem.
> 1220- Reach 4341-w/DOV CP (349.4) w/inbound msg.
> 1223- Opec 23 (KC-10A 2nd/32nd ARS MCGUIRE AFB)-w/Norfolk Metro (271.6)
> w/request for 1700Z landing wx at McGuire AFB.
> 1306- PAT 213-w/ZDC (133.9) descending to FL210. At 1322 check in
> w/Potomac (124.55). At 1333 Potomac (124.55) hands him off to
> Philadelphia approach (119.75).
> 1313- Army 1944 (VC-37A # 97-1944, OSACOM)-w/Potomac (128.35)-land ADW
> (118.4)
> 1337- Boxer 647 (C-38/C-40, 201st AS DC ANG ADFW)-depart ADW (125.65).
> 1351- JOSA 359-w/Griffin CP (378.1) w/departure msg.
> 1353- PAT 79-w/Potomac (119.85 & 119.3). Land ADW (118.4)
> 1358- Reach 516-check in w/Potomac (124.55). At 1402 handed off to DOV
> approach (132.425).
> 1400- Marine 437 (prob UC-35, MASD ADW)-depart ADW (118.4)
> 1401- PAT 08-w/Potomac (119.85)
> 1402- Coast Guard 102 (C-143, CGAS Wash DC)-w/Potomac (125.65) w/request
> for pattern work at ADW.
> 1408- JOSA 107-depart ADW (118.95)
> 1409- Venus 40 (VC-37A # 97-0400, 99th AS ADW)-patterns at ADW (125.65 &
> 119.3).
> 1412- Easy 449 (UC-35 VR-54, NAS JRB New Orleans)-w/Griffin CP (141.55)
> w/inbound msg. Land ADW (118.4)
> 1415- Reach 373-w/Griffin CP (378.1) w/departure msg.
> 1430- Risky 51 flt (2 X F-22s, Langley)-on GK common (312.3) & on sqdn
> freqs (254.2 & 296.9).
> 1431- Wild 1 (F-16, 121st FS DC ANG ADW)-w/ZDC (281.4) requesting IFR
> clearance to ADW.
> 1503- Marine 206 (prob UC-35, MASD ADW)-land ADW (118.4)
> 1509- Evac 33119 (C-17, MS ANG)-w/Griffin CP (378.1) w/inbound msg.
> 1545-1655 Blue Angels practice (237.8; 255.2 & 284.25) for Naval Academy
> show (Wednesday) and fly-by (Friday).
> 1645- Guard 21929 (OH-58A+ Kiowa Co. 'A' / 1-224th Avn; (S&S), Maryland
> ArNG; Weide AHP)-patterns at Weide (126.2)
> 1652- Reach 9061-w/ZDC (127.7) then land at DOV (132.425 & 126.35).
> 1705- Reach 034-land ADW (118.4)
> 1709- Upset 16 (KC-135RR 128th ARG, WI ANG Milwaukee, WI)-w/ZDC (133.9)
>
>
> Ron (mdmonitor1 at verizon.net)
> Baltimore MD (390747N 763711W)
> VHF/UHF: BC-895XLT/RS Pro-2045
> Diamond D-130J discone
> HF: Icom R75 & Sangean ATS 909
> 45-ft EF-SWL & 70-ft random wire
>
>
>
>
> ------------------------------
>
> Message: 5
> Date: Wed, 21 May 2008 08:06:39 -0400
> From: "Ed Tobias" <edtobias at comcast.net>
> Subject: [Scan-DC] Montgo 2nd alarm box 30-07
> To: <scan-dc at mailman.qth.net>
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> Second requested on arrival of Chief 706 for 11505 Lake Potomac Drive in
> Potomac....described as a large, 3 story house. Fire through the roof on
> arrival. Initial attack engine unable to get in through front door due to
> heavy fire. Defensive attack only.
>
> ------------------------------
>
> Message: 6
> Date: Wed, 21 May 2008 08:07:42 -0400
> From: "Ed Tobias" <edtobias at comcast.net>
> Subject: [Scan-DC] Montgo Box 30-07
> To: <scan-dc at mailman.qth.net>
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> Operations on 7-C.
>
> ------------------------------
>
> Message: 7
> Date: Wed, 21 May 2008 16:57:15 -0400
> From: "Thomas P. Clouse" <tom at clouse.com>
> Subject: [Scan-DC] Flight Exercises Tonight
> To: Scan-DC at mailman.qth.net
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> MPD reports / Falcon's "Virgo" exercise is scheduled for late tonight
> 5/21/08 beginning at 2345 hours into tomorrow morning 5/22/08 ending
> at 0600 hours. This exercise comprises a series of training flights
> held in coordination with the Federal Aviation Administration, the
> National Capital Region Command Center, the Joint Air Defense
> Operations Center, Civil Air Patrol, and NORAD. Residents in the area
> can expect flights to occur throughout the night.
>
>
> ------------------------------
>
> Message: 8
> Date: Thu, 22 May 2008 04:49:06 -0700 (PDT)
> From: JOHN ANTONELLI <johnantonelli at verizon.net>
> Subject: [Scan-DC] Arlington P25
> To: scandc <Scan-DC at mailman.qth.net>
> Message-ID: <925939.70534.qm at web84104.mail.mud.yahoo.com>
> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1
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> Any changes to what was presented earlier?
>
>
> ------------------------------
>
> Message: 9
> Date: Thu, 22 May 2008 10:41:33 -0400
> From: "Euan Fisk" <dc2wheel at gmail.com>
> Subject: Re: [Scan-DC] Arlington P25
> To: "JOHN ANTONELLI" <johnantonelli at verizon.net>
> Cc: scandc <Scan-DC at mailman.qth.net>
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> I'm noticing the system using frequencies:
> 860.9375
> 866.7125
> 860.9375
> 860.7625
> 858.9375
> 858.7625
> 857.9375
> 857.7625
> 856.9375
>
> so far, with the control channel of 860.4375.
>
> So far the TG data on radioreference.com seems to be right, though I
> think TG's 62 through 66 appear to be Sheriffs Dep't - primarily court
> & jail ops, plus several additional TG's in the '80's [81, 82 & 89]
> sound like county sanitation/maintenance.
>
> On 5/22/08, JOHN ANTONELLI <johnantonelli at verizon.net> wrote:
>> Any changes to what was presented earlier?
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