[FedCom] Re: [Scan-DC] It's Getting Serious

Larry Van Horn [email protected]
Mon, 10 Feb 2003 12:05:20 -0500


Hello Mike and all,

> sigint and monitoring should be real fun, real soon!  wish I didnt have to
> work so much...

Yea if you are watching Fox or CNN. ;-)

After monitoring the first Gulf War in 1991 and watching military
communications advances over the past decade, I doubt very much if you will
hear much of anything Mike.  Here is some of my thoughts along those lines
from an earlier post.

	"This has been discussed in several places across the net recently. Based
on my 23 years experience as a US Navy communicator here are some thoughts
to think about regarding hearing comms from Gulf Qar II.
	The military jets attacking Iraq will operate in the UHF milair spectrum
225-400 MHz. Remeber that this band is line of sight. That means in order to
hear the UHF milair activity you would have to be within 200-300 miles of
the action. It is a little over 300 miles from Baghdad to Kuwait, so to hear
the aircraft you would have to be in Iraq!
	No doubt as in the past in the real world encryption will be used by these
fixed wing pilots so nothing will be in the clear. I don't think anyone is
going to put up a website to let us listen in on troops attacking Saddam.
That would be like the coalition pilots going up on the most widely
monitored military HF frequency in the world (HF-GCS primary 11175 kHz USB)
and announcing to the entire world, "Oh by the way, this is the Coalition
attack force. We are enroute Baghdad right now to bomb Saddam. We just
wanted to announce that so the rest of the world would know. Shhhh don't
tell Saddam" ;-)
	Sorry but given what we have not heard so far I doubt you will hear, nor
will there be, any internet feeds, HF comms, UHF, or milsat comms of any of
the war or battle action via radio or internet. For the safety of our
military men and women that makes darm good common sense. And as a taxpayer,
it darn well better be that way or I will not be a happy camper given the
money we have spent on secure communications over the last decade. ;-)

Obviously if we do hear something around the perimeter, i.e. airlift, swbc,
etc.) we will post it immediately to the Monitoring Times Chatboard. I
invite you to camp out there and see what pops.

73 all and good hunting,

Larry Van Horn, N5FPW
ATC (AW)      USN (Ret)
Monitoring Times Magazine Assistant Editor
MT Milcom/Fed File Columnist/WUN Mil/Gov Columnist
Grove Enterprises Technical Support Department
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> -----Original Message-----
> From: [email protected]
> [mailto:[email protected]]On Behalf Of Michael Rumberg
> Sent: Sunday, February 09, 2003 12:18 AM
> To: [email protected]; scan-dc@qth. net; [email protected]
> Subject: [FedCom] Re: [Scan-DC] It's Getting Serious
>
>
> based on tide tables and the moon phases, I expect the
> festivities to begin
> at the end of February, around the 26th.
>
> sigint and monitoring should be real fun, real soon!  wish I didnt have to
> work so much...
>
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> Sent: Saturday, February 08, 2003 11:48 PM
> Subject: [Scan-DC] It's Getting Serious
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