[SADXA] 3D2RRR--Rotuma/Fiji

Jim Wysocki wysocki1 at mindspring.com
Sat May 28 11:46:36 EDT 2022 

It looks like they're using two different software programs, WSJT-X (in 
both simplex and Fox and Hound mode) and MSHV.  Each of these requires a 
different response sequence on our side.  There's no easy way for us to 
know which one they're using except by observing the QSO exchanges and 
then trying and failing until the correct match is found.  That process 
is burning up everybody's time, even under low QRM and strong signal 
conditions.

I've supposedly worked them on seven bands right now.  However I'm sure 
that several of these "QSOs" never made it into the 3D2RRR logbook.  
Without an on line log as a reference there is no way to check on what's 
there and what's not.  Fortunately I already have Rotuma confirmed on 
eight bands already.  I'm hoping that they'll get on 160m and I have a 
chance at getting a new one on that band.  If so I'll be extra careful 
on that QSO exchange sequence.

Jim  W9FI

On 5/28/2022 12:36 AM, Wes wrote:
> Except they booted me on the first call on their frequency.  Also I 
> did "start over" several times on several different frequencies. 
> That's what I meant by "fruitless."  Fortunately I don't care.  I have 
> Rotuma confirmed on RTTY on three bands.
>
> On 5/27/2022 10:30 PM, Jim Wysocki wrote:
>> When 3D2RRR pulled your transmitter over to one of their transmit 
>> frequencies that was the sign that they decoded your signal and that 
>> you were at the top of one of their queues.  When after three tries 
>> your transmitter was kicked up in frequency about 300 Hz, that's the 
>> sign that their F&H module has given up on your QSO.  They couldn't 
>> hear your reply, even though you were supposedly away from the QRM.  
>> From that point on their software will ignore all of your "R-12" 
>> calls. The only way to get the attention of the Fox software is to 
>> start from the beginning again (with "3D2RRR N7WS DM42") somewhere 
>> above the 1000 Hz delta mark.
>>
>> I've been observing their pileups and have seen a lot of QSOs being 
>> disrupted by third parties on simplex calling 3D2RRR on their TX/RX 
>> data streams.  These guys run a lot of power but never get through.  
>> However they do a really good job of jamming the finish of other 
>> people's contacts.  I'm pretty sure that's what happened to your 12m 
>> QSO.
>>
>> Jim W9FI
>>
>> On 5/27/2022 8:01 PM, Wes wrote:
>>> A while ago they were on 12 meters (maybe still are).  I called and 
>>> they moved me and gave me a +2 report.  I gave them a -12.  No RR73 
>>> was forthcoming and they moved me up about 300 Hz and left me 
>>> hanging.  They are now giving RR73s to others.  Calling again, when 
>>> I know they can hear me is fruitless.  Either I'm on their s-list or 
>>> I'm locked out because they think we completed. I don't.
>>>
>>> I've worked Tony on Fiji on 160 but not Rotuma.  He's never sent a 
>>> QSL either.
>>>
>>> Wes
>>>
>>> On 5/27/2022 5:53 PM, Jim Wysocki wrote:
>>>> Fortunately, Tony periodically operates from Rotuma, so even if it 
>>>> turns out you're not in the 3D2RRR log there will be other 
>>>> opportunities to get that entity.
>>>>
>>>> I was hoping to get these guys on 160m but it's the wrong time of 
>>>> the year to even hear them.  Last night the only signal on the band 
>>>> was someone from New Mexico CQing in vain.
>>>>
>>>> Jim  W9FI
>>>>
>>>> On 5/27/2022 5:28 PM, Wes wrote:
>>>>> Their QRZ page says, among other things, "We always send 73' but 
>>>>> only 3 times, after 3rd time we are moving to CQ call."
>>>>>
>>>>> Clearly, they aren't doing that. IMHO they aren't making valid 
>>>>> contacts but I personally don't care.  If you want a legit QSO 
>>>>> with Rotuma, work Tony, 3D2AG/p.
>>>>>
>>>>> Wes  N7WS
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> On 5/27/2022 5:04 PM, w0pzd at juno.com wrote:
>>>>>> After trying on 4 different bands, simplex and F&H I finally have 
>>>>>> them in the log. They must have just started up on 12 mtrs  
>>>>>> because I had signal report in less than a minute.   I waited for 
>>>>>> a 73 but it never came.  I saw one reference that you were in the 
>>>>>> log if you got a signal report. Some people were getting 73/s??  
>>>>>> I noted that WSJTX had changed the color from BLUE to white so 
>>>>>> that should be a good sign. GridTracker says I worked them too.  
>>>>>> QRZ recorded the contact but my country count didn't go up.  
>>>>>> Well, If I see them again I'll work them again, likely on another 
>>>>>> band.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Dick  W0PZD</html>
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