[SADXA] 40m DAY DX of a Yagi vs K07SS CW Skimmer on a Dipole - Dec. 2nd

Richard Solomon dickw1ksz at gmail.com
Tue Dec 3 21:29:33 EST 2019


OK, then if I understand correctly, his data
gets fed into the VE7CC system, yes ?

In which case I will just stick with VE7CC.

Tnx for the reply,

73 es HH, Dick, W1KSZ


On Tue, Dec 3, 2019, 7:16 PM Bill Clark <bill.clark.jr at outlook.com> wrote:

> More info.
>
> A simple answer is to click the RNN/KO7SS link on
> https://www.qrz.com/db/KO7SS or click the link below which is the same
> thing.
>
> http://www.reversebeacon.net/dxsd1/dxsd1.php?f=0&c=ko7ss&t=de
>
> This is the real time output from the KO7SS CW Skimmer. This is nice to
> look at, but logging into your favorite DX chasing or contesting program
> (which understands what DX you are looking for, etc.) via the method I
> described below is way more useful.
>
> 73, Bill K6WSC
>
>
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: sadxa-bounces at mailman.qth.net <sadxa-bounces at mailman.qth.net> On
> Behalf Of Bill Clark
> Sent: Tuesday, December 3, 2019 6:47 PM
> To: Southern AZ DX Association E-Mail Reflector <sadxa at mailman.qth.net>
> Subject: Re: [SADXA] 40m DAY DX of a Yagi vs K07SS CW Skimmer on a Dipole
> - Dec. 2nd
>
> I first set up either the VE7CC cluster (using the CC-User application) or
> the AR-Cluster (using commands I create and load into the N1MM Telnet
> window). I then point N1MM at either the AE5E-2 or VE7CC-1 nodes on the
> VE7CC cluster, or the NC7J node on the AR-Cluster. Either cluster does the
> same thing. The backbone of both clusters is the Reverse Beacon Network. I
> prefer the AR-Cluster.
>
> I request spots from only AZ and UT. I don't specifically ask to use any
> particular CW Skimmer (such as KO7SS) but will get spots from any AZ or UT
> skimmer. I want any and all spots from AZ & UT.
>
> I am only familiar with N1MM. Other programs that you may use can probably
> be pointed at either the VE7CC or AR-Cluster and will do the same thing as
> N1MM wrt displaying spots.
>
> There are potentially ways to log into a particular CW Skimmer, but I do
> not do that. Most CW Skimmers feed the clusters anyway.
>
> Let me know if you want more detail.
>
> 73, Bill K6WSC
>
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: sadxa-bounces at mailman.qth.net <sadxa-bounces at mailman.qth.net> On
> Behalf Of Richard Solomon
> Sent: Tuesday, December 3, 2019 6:17 PM
> To: Southern AZ DX Association E-Mail Reflector <sadxa at mailman.qth.net>
> Subject: Re: [SADXA] 40m DAY DX of a Yagi vs K07SS CW Skimmer on a Dipole
> - Dec. 2nd
>
> How does one access the KO7SS
> Skimmer ?
>
> 73 es HH, Dick, W1KSZ
>
> On Tue, Dec 3, 2019 at 5:46 PM Bill Clark <bill.clark.jr at outlook.com>
> wrote:
>
> > Dave,
> >
> > I agree totally with your KO7SS CW Skimmer analysis. My experience
> > mirrors yours.
> >
> > When I am contesting, I set up the AR-Cluster to only give me spots
> > from AZ and UT. This usually means spots from KO7SS. WA7LNW, or NC7J.
> > I can work everything I see spotted.
> >
> > There are CW Skimmers all over the world. You will have no trouble
> > finding one in your new location.
> >
> > 73, Bill K6WSC
> >
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: sadxa-bounces at mailman.qth.net <sadxa-bounces at mailman.qth.net> On
> > Behalf Of w7aqk at cox.net
> > Sent: Tuesday, December 3, 2019 5:14 PM
> > To: 'Southern AZ DX Association E-Mail Reflector'
> > <sadxa at mailman.qth.net>
> > Subject: Re: [SADXA] 40m DAY DX of a Yagi vs K07SS CW Skimmer on a
> > Dipole
> > - Dec. 2nd
> >
> > Bill and All,
> >
> > That may be true.  However, I have been very surprised at the
> > similarity between what KO7SS could hear and what I could hear with my
> R8 vertical.
> > Surely not 100%, but close enough that it has been a real benefit for
> > me as to what's on/workable and what isn't!  Perhaps the more
> > important thing was that if KO7SS could NOT hear a station, then I
> > almost certainly could not either!!!  When a DX station was reported
> > on one of the DX Clusters I would often check to see if KO7SS could
> > hear it, and if not, I would waste a lot of time trying to hear it
> > myself.  It was pretty accurate!  I'll miss being able to use that
> > skimmer.  Hope I find another one in my new QTH that is as reliable.
> >
> >  Dave W7AQK
> >
> > P.S.  Hitting the trail for Oregon this morning!
> >
> > D.
> >
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: sadxa-bounces at mailman.qth.net <sadxa-bounces at mailman.qth.net> On
> > Behalf Of Jim Wysocki
> > Sent: Monday, December 2, 2019 9:31 PM
> > To: sadxa at mailman.qth.net
> > Subject: Re: [SADXA] 40m DAY DX of a Yagi vs K07SS CW Skimmer on a
> > Dipole
> > - Dec. 2nd
> >
> > Bill, you'll need to take the KO7SS skimmer spots with a grain of salt.
> > Just because they log a call doesn't mean that some of our members
> > will be able to hear it.
> >
> > I recently was over to Bill's place on Mt. Lemmon where he has the
> > skimmer and the dipoles. The antennas are near the top of the
> > mountain, about 45 feet above the terrain, and with the one I saw
> > having a clear view towards Europe.  I don't recall seeing a second
> > antenna but it could have been there.  The net effect of the extra
> > work is that Bill's skimmer can hear some of the stations that he
> > can't copy down at his QTH in the city.  So if somebody is
> > well-situated, i.e., far enough away from the mountains that the low
> > angled signals can be received, he should be able to hear some DX that
> others of us who are too close to the mountains can't even detect.
> >
> > 73, Jim  W9FI
> >
> > On 12/2/2019 6:45 PM, W7EXG (Bill) wrote:
> > > The following 40m DAY DX was heard CALLING CQ in Tucson Dec. 2nd,
> > > from about 2145z to 2245z on my DB42 3 ele 40m Yagi on a 42 foot boom.
> > >
> > > ON4YOTA
> > > ON6DC
> > > F6BII
> > > R7DC
> > > CT9/DL5AXX
> > > CT1ZQ
> > > SP9FV
> > >
> > > The following 40m DAY DX was heard CALLING CQ in Tucson Dec. 2nd,
> > > from 2145z to 2245z on KO7SS CW skimmer dipoles.
> > >
> > > NONE of the above.
> > >
> > > Although K07SS did not record the above 40m DX, it has recorded in
> > > the past 40m DAY DX in this time frame. Thus, 40m DAY DX is still
> > > quite possible with a dipole. Such 40m DAY DX has already been
> > > recorded here on dipole type 40m antennas.
> > >
> > > 73'S
> > > BILL W7EXG
> > >
> > >
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