[SADXA] My Tower

RICHARD SOLOMON w1ksz at q.com
Sat Apr 25 23:00:12 EDT 2009 

Can we invite KC0LL to a meeting to give a talk on how he did this ??

 

Also, has anone found out the requirements for a permit ? Are they in

writing somewhere in the County Reg's ??

 

73, Dick, W1KSZ 
 
> From: jdwothe at cox.net
> To: sadxa at mailman.qth.net
> Date: Sat, 25 Apr 2009 19:30:37 -0700
> Subject: Re: [SADXA] My Tower
> 
> Bernie:
> 
> You must have been in HRO there in SD. Tom and I go back many years.
> 
> I checked out the KC0LL website. I chuckled all the way through the view of 
> the tower. What a fantastic outcome. I wonder how much flack the county has 
> had over that tower. The jokers at the Pima P&Z really did themselves in on 
> this one. I must find him and hear his story.
> 
> I wonder what they define as an engineered tower. Rohn is an engineered 
> tower with engineering to go with it.
> 
> Have a great trip home.
> 
> Jerry
> ----- Original Message ----- 
> From: "BERNIE J SASEK" <bsasek at msn.com>
> To: "Southern AZ DX Association E-Mail Reflector" <sadxa at mailman.qth.net>
> Sent: Saturday, April 25, 2009 4:38 PM
> Subject: Re: [SADXA] My Tower
> 
> 
> > Jerry and all.
> > you need to check out 'kc0ll.net' this guy beat pima county p&z at 
> > their own game. still in SD. We are leaving for Tucson tomorrow morning. 
> > Tom, KM6K, says to say hello. Hope to be on the air in 24 hours.
> >
> > Bernie
> > ----- Original Message ----- 
> > From: Jerry Wothe<mailto:jdwothe at cox.net>
> > To: Southern AZ DX Association E-Mail 
> > Reflector<mailto:sadxa at mailman.qth.net>
> > Sent: Saturday, April 25, 2009 4:30 PM
> > Subject: Re: [SADXA] My Tower
> >
> >
> > I have not seen a pole with that kind of wind load rating but I am sure
> > they are around.
> >
> > You are right about Pima County. Those guys are such a wonderful bunch, 
> > they
> > are looking out for our best interests.
> >
> > If I walked in and told them I was planning to put that tower up, they 
> > would
> > probably have a cow.
> >
> > Some day when we are together I will tell you a story about a guy in
> > Prescott that went in and told the permit folks he was going to put up a 
> > 90'
> > tower in a 35' zone. They said you cant do that. In the end he got a
> > permit.
> >
> > Great Stories.
> >
> > Jerry
> > ----- Original Message ----- 
> > From: <k5rr at aol.com<mailto:k5rr at aol.com>>
> > To: <sadxa at mailman.qth.net<mailto:sadxa at mailman.qth.net>>
> > Sent: Saturday, April 25, 2009 2:04 PM
> > Subject: Re: [SADXA] My Tower
> >
> >
> > > I?think for what you'd have to pay for one of these things you could 
> > get a
> > > rotating steel pole.? I think I'd rather go that route.? Fortunately, 
> > Pima
> > > County keeps our impulses in check.
> > >
> > > Dick
> > >
> > >
> > > -----Original Message-----
> > > From: Jerry Wothe <jdwothe at cox.net<mailto:jdwothe at cox.net>>
> > > To: Southern AZ DX Association E-Mail Reflector 
> > <sadxa at mailman.qth.net<mailto:sadxa at mailman.qth.net>>
> > > Sent: Sat, 25 Apr 2009 1:48 pm
> > > Subject: Re: [SADXA] My Tower
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > Actually, one to the guys in the CADXA says he imports heavy stuff all 
> > the
> > > time from Japan and says shipping isn't all that bad. He quoted it cost
> > > about $300 to ship a car from there. I am sure this will be much more 
> > as I
> > > don't know of many cars that weigh 15 tons. But I will ask him what he
> > > thinks this one would be.
> > >
> > > I missed that weight tag on their site. I would imagine the 168' job is 
> > a
> > > few more K lbs. I wonder how much concrete that thing needs under it?
> > >
> > > 73's
> > > Jerry
> > > ----- Original Message ----- 
> > > From: <k5rr at aol.com<mailto:k5rr at aol.com>>
> > > To: <sadxa at mailman.qth.net<mailto:sadxa at mailman.qth.net>>
> > > Sent: Saturday, April 25, 2009 5:59 AM
> > > Subject: Re: [SADXA] My Tower
> > >
> > >
> > >> Their web site says that the 145 foot model weighs 28,600 lb!!!??See
> > >> www.luso.us/index2.html<http://www.luso.us/index2.html>.? I assume 
> > they're going to ship these things
> > >> from
> > >> Japan.? What must that cost?!
> > >>
> > >> 73, Dick
> > >>
> > >>
> > >> -----Original Message-----
> > >> From: Jerry Wothe <jdwothe at cox.net<mailto:jdwothe at cox.net>>
> > >> To: Southern AZ DX Association E-Mail Reflector 
> > <sadxa at mailman.qth.net<mailto:sadxa at mailman.qth.net>>
> > >> Sent: Sat, 25 Apr 2009 4:25 am
> > >> Subject: Re: [SADXA] My Tower
> > >>
> > >>
> > >>
> > >> Hi Dick:
> > >>
> > >> Yes I think you are right about the market in the US. When one looks 
> > at
> > >> the
> > >> size of everything to deal with something like that its mind boggling.
> > >>
> > >> It sure would be fun to have something like that, but I supposed the
> > >> neighbors would not be very happy, to say the least.
> > >>
> > >> I could not find anything on the weight of the unit. It has to be 
> > several
> > >> tons.
> > >>
> > >> Jerry
> > >> ----- Original Message ----- 
> > >> From: <k5rr at aol.com<mailto:k5rr at aol.com>>
> > >> To: <sadxa at mailman.qth.net<mailto:sadxa at mailman.qth.net>>
> > >> Sent: Friday, April 24, 2009 10:21 PM
> > >> Subject: Re: [SADXA] My Tower
> > >>
> > >>
> > >>> These Luso people are crazy to think there's a significant U.S. 
> > market
> > >>> for
> > >>> these things.? Got to give them credit for audacity, though.
> > >>> Yeah, I'd like to have one.?
> > >>>
> > >>> Dick
> > >>>
> > >>>
> > >>> -----Original Message-----
> > >>> From: Jerry Wothe <jdwothe at cox.net<mailto:jdwothe at cox.net>>
> > >>> To: 
> > ""Undisclosed-Recipient:;""@mailman.qth.net<mailto:%22Undisclosed-Recipient:;%22%22 at mailman.qth.net>
> > >>> Sent: Fri, 24 Apr 2009 9:17 am
> > >>> Subject: [SADXA] My Tower
> > >>>
> > >>>
> > >>>
> > >>> I have finally found a tower I think will do just fine. Adjusta
> > > ble for
> > >>> the
> > >>> right
> > >>> angle of take off, so that is not an issue.
> > >>>
> > >>> Its a Luso, free standing crank up.
> > >>>
> > >>> Full height 168'
> > >>> Nested 44'
> > >>> 140 SQ ft at 50 MPH
> > >>> 18" at the top and it will take a 8.6" mast
> > >>> 82" across the bottom.
> > >>> 6 sections,
> > >>> 50 Seconds up or down with slowing at the ends so as not to bend all 
> > the
> > >>> elements when it stops.
> > >>>
> > >>> I wonder what the HOAs would think of that. Even the county of Pima
> > >>> would
> > >>> have a
> > >>> cow.
> > >>>
> > >>> That is what I call a real tower.
> > >>>
> > >>> It only takes a little $$$$ but I dont know how much.
> > >>>
> > >>> They have others less impressive tower, like, 145' and 118', hardly
> > >>> worth
> > >>> considering.
> > >>>
> > >>> Check it out at: 
> > http://www.luso.us/index2.html<http://www.luso.us/index2.html>
> > >>>
> > >>> Why stop at 70 or 80 feet when you can go to 168.
> > >>>
> > >>> 73's
> > >>> Jerry
> > >>> W6XI
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