[SADXA] My Tower
D ANDERSEN
w7dddd at msn.com
Sat Apr 25 22:04:57 EDT 2009
In the past we could ask for a varience for this type of tower. Can we still apply for one?
Don w7dd w6aa
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> 1. 2009 Seventh Area QSO Party May 2-3, 2009 (KE7DX)
> 2. Re: My Tower (RICHARD SOLOMON)
> 3. Re: My Tower (Jerry Wothe)
> 4. Re: My Tower (k5rr at aol.com)
> 5. Re: My Tower (Jerry Wothe)
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> Message: 1
> Date: Sat, 25 Apr 2009 16:11:50 -0400
> From: KE7DX <ke7dx at marketemporium.com>
> Subject: [SADXA] 2009 Seventh Area QSO Party May 2-3, 2009
> To: k7rst at mailman.qth.net, sadxa at mailman.qth.net,
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> Forwarded from Bob K8IA:
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> This email is to notify you and your fellow club members that the Fourth Annual
> Seventh Area QSO Party (7QP) will take place from 1300Z May 2 thru 0700Z May 3
> (6am thru Midnight local MST on Saturday May 3).
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> fact, the first year, 2006, it had more activity than any first year of any QSO
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> ------------------------------
>
> Message: 2
> Date: Sat, 25 Apr 2009 20:42:54 +0000
> From: RICHARD SOLOMON <w1ksz at q.com>
> Subject: Re: [SADXA] My Tower
> To: SADXA <sadxa at mailman.qth.net>
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>
> Someone at Dayton will buy that thing, and get a good deal. I don't
>
> think they want to ship it back.
>
> >From the looks of the site where they placed it, permit restrictions
>
> must be pretty loose !!
>
> That hole for the base was a tad big, if you dug one of those here
>
> you would probably strike oil !!
>
>
>
> 73, Dick, W1KSZ
>
> > To: sadxa at mailman.qth.net
> > Date: Sat, 25 Apr 2009 08:59:46 -0400
> > From: k5rr at aol.com
> > Subject: Re: [SADXA] My Tower
> >
> > Their web site says that the 145 foot model weighs 28,600 lb!!!??See www.luso.us/index2.html.? I assume they're going to ship these things from Japan.? What must that cost?!
> >
> > 73, Dick
> >
> >
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: Jerry Wothe <jdwothe at cox.net>
> > To: Southern AZ DX Association E-Mail Reflector <sadxa at mailman.qth.net>
> > Sent: Sat, 25 Apr 2009 4:25 am
> > Subject: Re: [SADXA] My Tower
> >
> >
> >
> > Hi Dick:
> >
> > Yes I think you are right about the market in the US. When one looks at the
> > size of everything to deal with something like that its mind boggling.
> >
> > It sure would be fun to have something like that, but I supposed the
> > neighbors would not be very happy, to say the least.
> >
> > I could not find anything on the weight of the unit. It has to be several
> > tons.
> >
> > Jerry
> > ----- Original Message -----
> > From: <k5rr at aol.com>
> > To: <sadxa at mailman.qth.net>
> > Sent: Friday, April 24, 2009 10:21 PM
> > Subject: Re: [SADXA] My Tower
> >
> >
> > > These Luso people are crazy to think there's a significant U.S. market for
> > > these things.? Got to give them credit for audacity, though.
> > > Yeah, I'd like to have one.?
> > >
> > > Dick
> > >
> > >
> > > -----Original Message-----
> > > From: Jerry Wothe <jdwothe at cox.net>
> > > To: ""Undisclosed-Recipient:;""@mailman.qth.net
> > > Sent: Fri, 24 Apr 2009 9:17 am
> > > Subject: [SADXA] My Tower
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > I have finally found a tower I think will do just fine. Adjustable for the
> > > right
> > > angle of take off, so that is not an issue.
> > >
> > > Its a Luso, free standing crank up.
> > >
> > > Full height 168'
> > > Nested 44'
> > > 140 SQ ft at 50 MPH
> > > 18" at the top and it will take a 8.6" mast
> > > 82" across the bottom.
> > > 6 sections,
> > > 50 Seconds up or down with slowing at the ends so as not to bend all the
> > > elements when it stops.
> > >
> > > I wonder what the HOAs would think of that. Even the county of Pima would
> > > have a
> > > cow.
> > >
> > > That is what I call a real tower.
> > >
> > > It only takes a little $$$$ but I dont know how much.
> > >
> > > They have others less impressive tower, like, 145' and 118', hardly worth
> > > considering.
> > >
> > > Check it out at: http://www.luso.us/index2.html
> > >
> > > Why stop at 70 or 80 feet when you can go to 168.
> > >
> > > 73's
> > > Jerry
> > > W6XI
> > >
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> Message: 3
> Date: Sat, 25 Apr 2009 13:48:17 -0700
> From: "Jerry Wothe" <jdwothe at cox.net>
> Subject: Re: [SADXA] My Tower
> To: "Southern AZ DX Association E-Mail Reflector"
> <sadxa at mailman.qth.net>
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> Actually, one to the guys in the CADXA says he imports heavy stuff all the
> time from Japan and says shipping isn't all that bad. He quoted it cost
> about $300 to ship a car from there. I am sure this will be much more as I
> don't know of many cars that weigh 15 tons. But I will ask him what he
> thinks this one would be.
>
> I missed that weight tag on their site. I would imagine the 168' job is a
> few more K lbs. I wonder how much concrete that thing needs under it?
>
> 73's
> Jerry
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: <k5rr at aol.com>
> To: <sadxa at mailman.qth.net>
> Sent: Saturday, April 25, 2009 5:59 AM
> Subject: Re: [SADXA] My Tower
>
>
> > Their web site says that the 145 foot model weighs 28,600 lb!!!??See
> > www.luso.us/index2.html.? I assume they're going to ship these things from
> > Japan.? What must that cost?!
> >
> > 73, Dick
> >
> >
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: Jerry Wothe <jdwothe at cox.net>
> > To: Southern AZ DX Association E-Mail Reflector <sadxa at mailman.qth.net>
> > Sent: Sat, 25 Apr 2009 4:25 am
> > Subject: Re: [SADXA] My Tower
> >
> >
> >
> > Hi Dick:
> >
> > Yes I think you are right about the market in the US. When one looks at
> > the
> > size of everything to deal with something like that its mind boggling.
> >
> > It sure would be fun to have something like that, but I supposed the
> > neighbors would not be very happy, to say the least.
> >
> > I could not find anything on the weight of the unit. It has to be several
> > tons.
> >
> > Jerry
> > ----- Original Message -----
> > From: <k5rr at aol.com>
> > To: <sadxa at mailman.qth.net>
> > Sent: Friday, April 24, 2009 10:21 PM
> > Subject: Re: [SADXA] My Tower
> >
> >
> >> These Luso people are crazy to think there's a significant U.S. market
> >> for
> >> these things.? Got to give them credit for audacity, though.
> >> Yeah, I'd like to have one.?
> >>
> >> Dick
> >>
> >>
> >> -----Original Message-----
> >> From: Jerry Wothe <jdwothe at cox.net>
> >> To: ""Undisclosed-Recipient:;""@mailman.qth.net
> >> Sent: Fri, 24 Apr 2009 9:17 am
> >> Subject: [SADXA] My Tower
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >> I have finally found a tower I think will do just fine. Adjustable for
> >> the
> >> right
> >> angle of take off, so that is not an issue.
> >>
> >> Its a Luso, free standing crank up.
> >>
> >> Full height 168'
> >> Nested 44'
> >> 140 SQ ft at 50 MPH
> >> 18" at the top and it will take a 8.6" mast
> >> 82" across the bottom.
> >> 6 sections,
> >> 50 Seconds up or down with slowing at the ends so as not to bend all the
> >> elements when it stops.
> >>
> >> I wonder what the HOAs would think of that. Even the county of Pima would
> >> have a
> >> cow.
> >>
> >> That is what I call a real tower.
> >>
> >> It only takes a little $$$$ but I dont know how much.
> >>
> >> They have others less impressive tower, like, 145' and 118', hardly worth
> >> considering.
> >>
> >> Check it out at: http://www.luso.us/index2.html
> >>
> >> Why stop at 70 or 80 feet when you can go to 168.
> >>
> >> 73's
> >> Jerry
> >> W6XI
> >>
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> Message: 4
> Date: Sat, 25 Apr 2009 17:04:05 -0400
> From: k5rr at aol.com
> Subject: Re: [SADXA] My Tower
> To: sadxa at mailman.qth.net
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> I?think for what you'd have to pay for one of these things you could get a rotating steel pole.? I think I'd rather go that route.? Fortunately, Pima County keeps our impulses in check.
>
> Dick
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Jerry Wothe <jdwothe at cox.net>
> To: Southern AZ DX Association E-Mail Reflector <sadxa at mailman.qth.net>
> Sent: Sat, 25 Apr 2009 1:48 pm
> Subject: Re: [SADXA] My Tower
>
>
>
> Actually, one to the guys in the CADXA says he imports heavy stuff all the
> time from Japan and says shipping isn't all that bad. He quoted it cost
> about $300 to ship a car from there. I am sure this will be much more as I
> don't know of many cars that weigh 15 tons. But I will ask him what he
> thinks this one would be.
>
> I missed that weight tag on their site. I would imagine the 168' job is a
> few more K lbs. I wonder how much concrete that thing needs under it?
>
> 73's
> Jerry
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: <k5rr at aol.com>
> To: <sadxa at mailman.qth.net>
> Sent: Saturday, April 25, 2009 5:59 AM
> Subject: Re: [SADXA] My Tower
>
>
> > Their web site says that the 145 foot model weighs 28,600 lb!!!??See
> > www.luso.us/index2.html.? I assume they're going to ship these things from
> > Japan.? What must that cost?!
> >
> > 73, Dick
> >
> >
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: Jerry Wothe <jdwothe at cox.net>
> > To: Southern AZ DX Association E-Mail Reflector <sadxa at mailman.qth.net>
> > Sent: Sat, 25 Apr 2009 4:25 am
> > Subject: Re: [SADXA] My Tower
> >
> >
> >
> > Hi Dick:
> >
> > Yes I think you are right about the market in the US. When one looks at
> > the
> > size of everything to deal with something like that its mind boggling.
> >
> > It sure would be fun to have something like that, but I supposed the
> > neighbors would not be very happy, to say the least.
> >
> > I could not find anything on the weight of the unit. It has to be several
> > tons.
> >
> > Jerry
> > ----- Original Message -----
> > From: <k5rr at aol.com>
> > To: <sadxa at mailman.qth.net>
> > Sent: Friday, April 24, 2009 10:21 PM
> > Subject: Re: [SADXA] My Tower
> >
> >
> >> These Luso people are crazy to think there's a significant U.S. market
> >> for
> >> these things.? Got to give them credit for audacity, though.
> >> Yeah, I'd like to have one.?
> >>
> >> Dick
> >>
> >>
> >> -----Original Message-----
> >> From: Jerry Wothe <jdwothe at cox.net>
> >> To: ""Undisclosed-Recipient:;""@mailman.qth.net
> >> Sent: Fri, 24 Apr 2009 9:17 am
> >> Subject: [SADXA] My Tower
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >> I have finally found a tower I think will do just fine. Adjusta
> ble for
> >> the
> >> right
> >> angle of take off, so that is not an issue.
> >>
> >> Its a Luso, free standing crank up.
> >>
> >> Full height 168'
> >> Nested 44'
> >> 140 SQ ft at 50 MPH
> >> 18" at the top and it will take a 8.6" mast
> >> 82" across the bottom.
> >> 6 sections,
> >> 50 Seconds up or down with slowing at the ends so as not to bend all the
> >> elements when it stops.
> >>
> >> I wonder what the HOAs would think of that. Even the county of Pima would
> >> have a
> >> cow.
> >>
> >> That is what I call a real tower.
> >>
> >> It only takes a little $$$$ but I dont know how much.
> >>
> >> They have others less impressive tower, like, 145' and 118', hardly worth
> >> considering.
> >>
> >> Check it out at: http://www.luso.us/index2.html
> >>
> >> Why stop at 70 or 80 feet when you can go to 168.
> >>
> >> 73's
> >> Jerry
> >> W6XI
> >>
> >> ______________________________________________________________
> >> SADXA Website http://www.sadxa.org
> >>
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> Message: 5
> Date: Sat, 25 Apr 2009 16:30:02 -0700
> From: "Jerry Wothe" <jdwothe at cox.net>
> Subject: Re: [SADXA] My Tower
> To: "Southern AZ DX Association E-Mail Reflector"
> <sadxa at mailman.qth.net>
> Message-ID: <206D283EEF2C44368768BDF5C1FDF9C1 at garage>
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>
> I have not seen a pole with that kind of wind load rating but I am sure
> they are around.
>
> You are right about Pima County. Those guys are such a wonderful bunch, they
> are looking out for our best interests.
>
> If I walked in and told them I was planning to put that tower up, they would
> probably have a cow.
>
> Some day when we are together I will tell you a story about a guy in
> Prescott that went in and told the permit folks he was going to put up a 90'
> tower in a 35' zone. They said you cant do that. In the end he got a
> permit.
>
> Great Stories.
>
> Jerry
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: <k5rr at aol.com>
> To: <sadxa at mailman.qth.net>
> Sent: Saturday, April 25, 2009 2:04 PM
> Subject: Re: [SADXA] My Tower
>
>
> > I?think for what you'd have to pay for one of these things you could get a
> > rotating steel pole.? I think I'd rather go that route.? Fortunately, Pima
> > County keeps our impulses in check.
> >
> > Dick
> >
> >
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: Jerry Wothe <jdwothe at cox.net>
> > To: Southern AZ DX Association E-Mail Reflector <sadxa at mailman.qth.net>
> > Sent: Sat, 25 Apr 2009 1:48 pm
> > Subject: Re: [SADXA] My Tower
> >
> >
> >
> > Actually, one to the guys in the CADXA says he imports heavy stuff all the
> > time from Japan and says shipping isn't all that bad. He quoted it cost
> > about $300 to ship a car from there. I am sure this will be much more as I
> > don't know of many cars that weigh 15 tons. But I will ask him what he
> > thinks this one would be.
> >
> > I missed that weight tag on their site. I would imagine the 168' job is a
> > few more K lbs. I wonder how much concrete that thing needs under it?
> >
> > 73's
> > Jerry
> > ----- Original Message -----
> > From: <k5rr at aol.com>
> > To: <sadxa at mailman.qth.net>
> > Sent: Saturday, April 25, 2009 5:59 AM
> > Subject: Re: [SADXA] My Tower
> >
> >
> >> Their web site says that the 145 foot model weighs 28,600 lb!!!??See
> >> www.luso.us/index2.html.? I assume they're going to ship these things
> >> from
> >> Japan.? What must that cost?!
> >>
> >> 73, Dick
> >>
> >>
> >> -----Original Message-----
> >> From: Jerry Wothe <jdwothe at cox.net>
> >> To: Southern AZ DX Association E-Mail Reflector <sadxa at mailman.qth.net>
> >> Sent: Sat, 25 Apr 2009 4:25 am
> >> Subject: Re: [SADXA] My Tower
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >> Hi Dick:
> >>
> >> Yes I think you are right about the market in the US. When one looks at
> >> the
> >> size of everything to deal with something like that its mind boggling.
> >>
> >> It sure would be fun to have something like that, but I supposed the
> >> neighbors would not be very happy, to say the least.
> >>
> >> I could not find anything on the weight of the unit. It has to be several
> >> tons.
> >>
> >> Jerry
> >> ----- Original Message -----
> >> From: <k5rr at aol.com>
> >> To: <sadxa at mailman.qth.net>
> >> Sent: Friday, April 24, 2009 10:21 PM
> >> Subject: Re: [SADXA] My Tower
> >>
> >>
> >>> These Luso people are crazy to think there's a significant U.S. market
> >>> for
> >>> these things.? Got to give them credit for audacity, though.
> >>> Yeah, I'd like to have one.?
> >>>
> >>> Dick
> >>>
> >>>
> >>> -----Original Message-----
> >>> From: Jerry Wothe <jdwothe at cox.net>
> >>> To: ""Undisclosed-Recipient:;""@mailman.qth.net
> >>> Sent: Fri, 24 Apr 2009 9:17 am
> >>> Subject: [SADXA] My Tower
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>
> >>> I have finally found a tower I think will do just fine. Adjusta
> > ble for
> >>> the
> >>> right
> >>> angle of take off, so that is not an issue.
> >>>
> >>> Its a Luso, free standing crank up.
> >>>
> >>> Full height 168'
> >>> Nested 44'
> >>> 140 SQ ft at 50 MPH
> >>> 18" at the top and it will take a 8.6" mast
> >>> 82" across the bottom.
> >>> 6 sections,
> >>> 50 Seconds up or down with slowing at the ends so as not to bend all the
> >>> elements when it stops.
> >>>
> >>> I wonder what the HOAs would think of that. Even the county of Pima
> >>> would
> >>> have a
> >>> cow.
> >>>
> >>> That is what I call a real tower.
> >>>
> >>> It only takes a little $$$$ but I dont know how much.
> >>>
> >>> They have others less impressive tower, like, 145' and 118', hardly
> >>> worth
> >>> considering.
> >>>
> >>> Check it out at: http://www.luso.us/index2.html
> >>>
> >>> Why stop at 70 or 80 feet when you can go to 168.
> >>>
> >>> 73's
> >>> Jerry
> >>> W6XI
> >>>
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