[RVRC] Internet failure at the Lund residence

David DeGeorge dld at degeorge.org
Sat Dec 15 20:20:53 EST 2012


The below is from the URL (see last sentence)
http://www.verizon.net/policies/popups/tos_popup.asp

Pretty clear since Asterisk is a server

> *Restrictions on Use.*The Service is a consumer grade service and 
> is not designed for or intended to be used for any commercial 
> purpose. You may not resell, re-provision or rent the Service, 
> (either for a fee or without charge) or allow third parties to use 
> the Service via wired, wireless or other means. For example, you 
> may not provide Internet access to third parties through a wired or 
> wireless connection or use the Service to facilitate public 
> Internet access (such as through a Wi-Fi hotspot), use it for high 
> volume purposes, or engage in similar activities that constitute 
> such use (commercial or non-commercial). If you subscribe to a 
> Broadband Service, you may connect multiple computers/devices 
> within a single home to your modem and/or router to access the 
> Service, but only through a single Verizon-issued IP address. You 
> also may not exceed the bandwidth usage limitations that Verizon 
> may establish from time to time for the Service, or use the Service 
> to host any type of server. Violation of this section may result in 
> bandwidth restrictions on your Service or suspension or termination 
> of your Service.



On 12/15/2012 07:35 PM, Alexander Sack wrote:
> On Sat, Dec 15, 2012 at 6:59 PM, Paul Nannery <kc2vrj at gmail.com> wrote:
>
>> Alex,
>>
>> You have the info we have from fios even if we could find a way to do it
>> it would be a tos issue as any Server must not use home service.  We have
>> both echolink and Asterisk servers on site. As the tech committee and I'm
>> sure officers agree we do not want any tos issues for sue
>>
>>
> http://www22.verizon.com/about/legacypages/broadbandcommitment.htm
>
> Read first statement.  What TOS issue exact?
>
> I betcha you if you said you used Skype, you would get the same party
> line.  But in reality, Verizon doesn't care. Our usage of Asterisk is so
> insignificant I doubt Verizon would even notice!
>
> I'm fine with a business account but I'd like to know a technical reason on
> WHY we need this? We are talking about upping the clubs costs $40/month or
> $480/year.
>
> Paul, let me say this:
>
> If Verizon detects we are using Asterisk and asks us to upgrade to a
> business account, then sure, we do it. But until then...
>
> -aps
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