[R-390] Survey to Consider Moving R-390 Mail List to Groups.IO

Mon Jul 6 13:17:34 EDT 2026

OK!

 Image was sent to the groups and should have been received by all.  I just checked the archive and the image does appear as a URL link at the bottom.  However, I believe these URL links have a time window at which point they expire (at least they used to). I am checking with Scott to see if this has changed.

Thanks for your patience

Jerry NY2KW

-----Original Message-----
From: r-390-bounces at mailman.qth.net <r-390-bounces at mailman.qth.net> On Behalf Of JOS K1JOS via R-390
Sent: Monday, July 6, 2026 12:58 PM
To: r-390 at mailman.qth.net
Subject: Re: [R-390] Survey to Consider Moving R-390 Mail List to Groups.IO

I have not restricted images to be attached if they are jpg,  bmp or pdf as long as total msg size is < 8Mb.   When I last asked Scott KA9FOX who manages all the mail lists, images were being scrubbed from the archives.

Here is a test image of one of my R-390a

Jerry 

-----Original Message-----
From: r-390-bounces at mailman.qth.net <r-390-bounces at mailman.qth.net> On Behalf Of Bill Blodgett via R-390
Sent: Monday, July 6, 2026 12:07 PM
To: r-390 at mailman.qth.net
Subject: Re: [R-390] Survey to Consider Moving R-390 Mail List to Groups.IO

Maybe I missed something, but I do not believe this extremely important advantage with moving to .io was well described.  We need a “do over”, plesse.

73,
Bill
W5WHB
++++++++++++++++
Bill Blodgett
Arlington, Texas

> On Jul 6, 2026, at 10:33 AM, Jim Whartenby via R-390 <r-390 at mailman.qth.net> wrote:
> 
> Jerry
> Thanks for the reply!
> Silly question; how large can the small size pdf be to get through the Mailman filter?  Instead of an attachment, is placing an image in the body of the text an option?
> Regards,
> Jim
> Logic is a systematic method of coming to the wrong conclusion with 
> confidence.  Murphy
> 
>   On Monday, July 6, 2026 at 09:22:41 AM CDT, JOS K1JOS <k1jos at att.net> wrote:   
> 
> Hi Jim,
> 
> Attachments are unfortunately unpredictably archived.  With https://mailman.qth.net/pipermail/r-390/  small sized pdfs can be found usually by a highlighted link below the message but larger pdfs and most images are scrubbed by Mailman's policies.
> 
> The other searchable archive: https://www.mail-archive.com/[email protected]/  also scrubs off all attachments.
> 
> This was a major reason cited for the request to move to Groups.io.  As the experts 'age-out', we are left with an incredibly valuable, detailed database but without pictures or attachments.
> 
> Jerry NY2KW
> 
> 
> 
> 
> From: r-390-bounces at mailman.qth.net <r-390-bounces at mailman.qth.net> On 
> Behalf Of Jim Whartenby via R-390
> Sent: Sunday, July 5, 2026 3:12 PM
> To: r-390 at mailman.qth.net
> Subject: Re: [R-390] Survey to Consider Moving R-390 Mail List to 
> Groups.IO
> 
> Jerry
> I understand your position, you are being more then fair.
> 
> Mailman is finicky in that it does not like to maintain the format I used when I post.  I use DuckDuckGo but this might be happening with anything other then ASCII since Mailman is quite old, it was released in 1999.  I can defeat the formatting issue by doing a double line return but I often forget that I'm posting to a Mailman server.
> 
> I doubt that anyone on this list is still using dial-up or are bandwidth limited so it would be nice to allow attachments and whatever else that would make posting here much easier and informative. Thoughts?
> 
> Jim
> Logic is a systematic method of coming to the wrong conclusion with 
> confidence.  Murphy
> 
>    On Sunday, July 5, 2026 at 09:08:21 AM CDT, JOS K1JOS via R-390 <r-390 at mailman.qth.net> wrote:
> 
> Happy 250th Year Celebration of our Independence Day!  Hope you all had a great day.  My family was headed to West Point yesterday  for the annual fireworks but T-storms wiped that out.
> 
> 
> 
> It's been a bit more than 2 weeks after my initial mail went out to the group.  Among 500+ members, I received only 53 replies.  While 90% were favorable to moving to Groups.IO, many of these replies sounded like it made no difference if we stayed or moved.  Given the very small overall turnout, I do not feel comfortable taking this decision, so the mail server will remain as is.  I hope those who requested the move will understand my actions.
> 
> 
> 
> Thanks to all who replied and thanks for letting me take up the bandwidth.
> 
> 
> 
> Jerry NY2KW
> 
> 
> 
> From: JOS K1JOS <k1jos at att.net>
> Sent: Thursday, June 18, 2026 7:34 PM
> To: 'R-390 at mailman.qth.net' <R-390 at mailman.qth.net>; 'k1jos at att.net'
> <k1jos at att.net>
> Subject: Survey to Consider Moving R-390 Mail List to Groups.IO
> 
> 
> 
> There has been a proposal to move our mailing list to Groups.io due to inconsistent mail/digest deliveries.  Groups.io has a very user friendly interface, will send you email updates or digests plus it has a robust searchable archive of messages and files.  The hosting fee is ~ $250/year.
> If we can establish a minimum interest among the current 500+ r-390 at milman.qth.net <mailto:r-390 at milman.qth.net>  members we can move forward.
> 
> 
> 
> All comments, suggestions, criticisms, etc are welcome.
> 
> 
> 
> Those who have already responded under the previous 'TEST' subject header need not reply again.
> 
> 
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> Link to Groups.io :  https://groups.io/
> 
> 
> 
> Thanks to all !
> 
> 
> 
> Jerry NY2KW (K1JOS) R-390 mail list administrator
> 
> 
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