[R-390] General valuation?

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Fri Sep 13 21:03:39 EDT 2019


Agree 1,000,000 %

They are great guys!  

-----Original Message-----
From: r-390-bounces at mailman.qth.net <r-390-bounces at mailman.qth.net> On
Behalf Of Robert P. Meadows
Sent: Friday, September 13, 2019 7:04 PM
To: 'Roger Ruszkowski' <flowertime01 at wmconnect.com>; r-390 at mailman.qth.net
Subject: Re: [R-390] General valuation?

Fair Radio has a pretty good selection of R390 radios that are essentially
parts.  You have to call for the part, and remember, those radios have been
gathered up from all across the USA, trucked to  Lima and preserved.  Just
the inventory maintenance cost is more than most would imagine.
I have found that Fair Radio prices are ALWAYS better than dreaded ebay, or
any other venue.  Further, if Fair sends a bad part, they stand behind what
they sell. Unless of course you butchered  the part whilst trying to install
it.
I can manufacture Oldham couplers... have done so for Collins equipment,
but, I doubt that anyone will pay the rate on making a one off part.
Cheers ALL
W4RRd

-----Original Message-----
From: r-390-bounces at mailman.qth.net <r-390-bounces at mailman.qth.net> On
Behalf Of Roger Ruszkowski
Sent: Friday, September 13, 2019 6:07 PM
To: r-390 at mailman.qth.net
Subject: Re: [R-390] General valuation?

Don, Property has changed ownership in the last 20 years.Doing a catalogue
of what you have nearly put one of the old R390 part sources into an early
grave.Aggregation exceeds return on investment. All the R390 R390/A manuals
and thirty plus years of collected wisdom are at R390.net All the readers
please ask for what you need.Our readers ask what about this. this gets a
written response. Ask about parts. That request will get you a one off offer
from some one.Aggregation exceeds return on investment.The cost of the
postage exceeds the cost of the parts and time to get it in the mail. So
what ever happens is between buyer and seller and the U S Mail man. Don you
could marry a frame and wire harness from Fair Radiowith all your modules,
do a paint job on one front panel andthe receiver maintenance and listen to
it for the rest of your life. The other threads are well supported for
taking the time to do one for your self. It is a project and the art has
many usesand stories tha
 t will carry on for years of enjoyment even ifit just setting quietly in
near memory. Laundry mat service time to get to a clean machine to start
will cost $1,000.00to sub contract. A week on the patio table across a warm
week and do it your self. Software audio from the diode load had made the
receivers the the new band converters between technologies again. Don, when
you get to it. You will look up the parts you needto makes some repairs.
Once you get past stock tubes, resistors,caps and hardware available on
line.  Then ask for the clamp, slug, crystals, or even whole sub decks if
you need one.The price is not free. What ever is agreed to is a steel and we
all know it. We give the parts away not our time today. Roger AI4NI
-----Original Message-----
From: Don Cunningham <donc at martineer.net>
To: r-390 <r-390 at mailman.qth.net>
Sent: Thu, Sep 12, 2019 8:08 pm
Subject: Re: [R-390] General valuation?

Hello from a new member to the list.  I guess I should say returning former
member, as I was on this list many years ago.  I sent a reply to Roger only
by accident, so will try to put it on the list the right way now.

I wish we would see R-390A equipment/parts listed on here from time to time,
especially parts available.  A "parts donor" or even better might be in the
offing if I could find one close and in reasonable shape.   I am bringing
back up two radios that have been down for a while, and will likely need
some help from the list as well as a part or two along the way.  Ebay prices
on the parts are still a bit ridiculous and small parts (clamps, Oldham
couplers, etc) non existent there or seemingly from Fair Radio anymore.  One
of these receivers is in very good shape, just not run for too long and the
other had a previous owner that butchered sections to "improve" things, so
it will be a long process of putting back right.

I appreciate all the work done in the past, and those that contributed to
that work.  More knowledge available than can be easily and quickly read!!
Nice work though and helpful.
Thanks all,
Don, WB5HAK

On 9/12/2019 2:51 PM, Roger Ruszkowski wrote:
>   Reuben A. Popp   in a restored CY-979A cabinet are pricy cabinets 
>but make good table top operations. Receivers with meters start at 3 
>and end at 5.Fellows are selling face paint and now pin stripe knobs 
>this year.As cosmetics. I have listened to paint dry but do not 
>understand how it improves receiver selectivity. There is nothing in a 
>R390/A that can not be repaired and return the receiver to operation.
>Receivers that have set years are no problem.The R390.net has the 
>Pearls of Wisdom that has all the knowledge collected sorted and ready 
>to help you get your receiver back on the air. There is a step by step 
>walk from into the shack up through full inspection, repair, and 
>alignment processto a good fully functional receiver. A Saturday 
>afternoon activity once a year as you do an oil change and wash. One AC 
>/ DC volt meter a special spline wrench and long #1 Philip screw driver 
>will troubleshoot any electronic problem in the receivers. You eye ball 
>the gear train andyou do own a military clean machine where dirt is 
>friction.  R390/A are receivers that ran 24 7 for six months. 4380 
>hours between maintenance activates.On time to warm up time of tubes is 
>if the tube is on for more than two hours Tubes will fail emissions 
>before the filament opens from thermal cycling. Turning the 
>receiversoff and on will not change tube life or performance. The whole 
>receivers do well to warm up and stabilize before going on air. About 
>one a year the Amateur Owner needs to do 8 hours of cleaning, 
>lubricatingand alignment of the receiver. Do wash the front panel and 
>pin strip knobs on occasion.It is a four hour job but that's not the 
>way we move it. Tube life is over 10,000 hours. R390/A are mechanical 
>and need all the knobs exercised to keep the receivershappy. Yea you 
>need to pet the things to keep them purring. Every dollar under 500 is 
>how well was the last PM doneand how long ago in operating hours. If 
>you move any R390/A in and out of a rack / cabinet  it incurs theexact 
>same mechanical vibration risk and will notcare how long it was since 
>last thumping by gravity stopped. Transportation cost exceeded anchor 
>value.Nice 400 - 500 dollar receivers are setting because the cost of 
>relocation is an equal cost. There are receivers available but the 
>entire Amateur market for the R390 and R390/Aover the last 30 years has 
>not supported a central pool. Fair Radio Sales in Lima Ohiokeeps parts 
>but has given up R390 receiver sales because cost to ship exceeds 
>product value.Drive to Lima and spend a day shopping in an electronics 
>logistics depot.Look in your R390 parts manual for part numbers when 
>ordering parts.The company catalog  is not the R390 or R390/A parts 
>manual any more. The receivers are still best on the Planet and doing 
>well.Their value is holding and no end of parts is in sight. Receiver 
>less meters is under 300 and with acceptable replacements at 300.
>Respectfully, Roger Ruszkowski AI4NI-----Original Message-----
> From: dog <agfa at hughes.net>
> To: r-390 <r-390 at mailman.qth.net>
> Sent: Thu, Sep 12, 2019 11:24 am
> Subject: Re: [R-390] General valuation?
>
> Generally worth what someone is prepared to pay. I've got a couple too 
> I'd like to sell, but I'm not giving them away at the moment. It may 
> come to that.
>
> On 9/12/2019 09:40, Reuben Popp wrote:
>> Good morning all,
>>
>> Quick question for the group.
>>
>> What is the general consensus on the price for a R390A in very good 
>> shape (with meters), in a restored CY-979A cabinet?  I have a lead on 
>> such a unit; I have been told it is in great shape in the cabinet and 
>> was working when last used.  However, it has not been powered on for the
past few years.
>>
>> Thanks in advance
>> Reuben A. Popp
>>
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