[R-390] Panel Refinishing

Thomas Chirhart k4ncgva at gmail.com
Mon Jun 17 20:41:05 EDT 2019 

Some of the Depot R-390A’s we had in the Navy looked more green than gray...
No difference in performance and only Radiomen and ET’s ever saw them anyway.
73 de K4NCG RMC ret...
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> On Jun 17, 2019, at 7:52 PM, Nick England <navy.radio at gmail.com> wrote:
> 
> The Navy (I dunno about other services) shifted colors on electronics
> equipment some time in the 1950’s. I use Rustoleum Dark Machine Grey for
> the earlier/darker equipment and Light Machine Grey for the newer shade.
> Nick
> 
> 
>> On Mon, Jun 17, 2019 at 7:16 PM <jgedde at optonline.net> wrote:
>> 
>> I need to make a correction before you all run out to buy paint in
>> FED-STD-595 color 26307.  I bought some and sprayed my front panel.  It
>> wasn't even close!!!!!  Despite what I read in the MIL specs, it isn't that
>> color.  However, after reading all the pearls, one contributor mentioned
>> FED-STD-595 color 26152.  I bought a quart of 26152 this morning and it's
>> an
>> EXACT match for the factory paint.  I did some touch up inside where the
>> original paint had worn off and you can't even tell the difference!
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> I resprayed the front panel and it's exactly what I hoped for.  It's
>> somewhat close to Rustoleum "Dark Machine Gray" but less blue and more
>> greenish and slightly darker.
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> Photo of my newly sprayed FP attached.  (Not dry yet)  I thinned the paint
>> with Xylol (as recommend by my paint dealer) and laid it down with a small
>> spray gun.
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> Ask your local Benjamin Moore or Coronado dealer for semi-gloss alkyd in
>> FED-STD-26152 when you're ready to paint.  I used Coronado Rust-Scat since
>> I've used it before to restore machine tools.  It's tough stuff!
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> John
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>> 
>> From: Les Locklear <leslocklear at hotmail.com>
>> Sent: Friday, June 7, 2019 8:19 PM
>> To: jgedde at optonline.net; 'Robert P. Meadows' <rpmeadow at bellsouth.net>;
>> 'Cecil' <chacuff at cableone.net>; 'Dave Sampson' <challanger13041 at yahoo.com>
>> Cc: r-390 at mailman.qth.net
>> Subject: RE: [R-390] Panel Refinishing
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> Of course...
>> 
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>> Sent from my C Spire Samsung S4
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>> 
>> -------- Original message --------
>> From: jgedde at optonline.net <mailto:jgedde at optonline.net>
>> Date: 06/07/2019 7:16 PM (GMT-06:00)
>> To: "'Robert P. Meadows'" <rpmeadow at bellsouth.net
>> <mailto:rpmeadow at bellsouth.net> >, 'Les Locklear' <leslocklear at hotmail.com
>> <mailto:leslocklear at hotmail.com> >, 'Cecil' <chacuff at cableone.net
>> <mailto:chacuff at cableone.net> >, 'Dave Sampson' <challanger13041 at yahoo.com
>> <mailto:challanger13041 at yahoo.com> >
>> Cc: r-390 at mailman.qth.net <mailto:r-390 at mailman.qth.net>
>> Subject: RE: [R-390] Panel Refinishing
>> 
>> Of course, I'll spray it not sponge it on a swatch like the paint dealer
>> did...
>> 
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: r-390-bounces at mailman.qth.net <mailto:r-390-bounces at mailman.qth.net>
>> <r-390-bounces at mailman.qth.net <mailto:r-390-bounces at mailman.qth.net> > On
>> Behalf Of jgedde at optonline.net <mailto:jgedde at optonline.net>
>> Sent: Friday, June 7, 2019 8:13 PM
>> To: 'Robert P. Meadows' <rpmeadow at bellsouth.net
>> <mailto:rpmeadow at bellsouth.net> >; 'Les Locklear' <leslocklear at hotmail.com
>> <mailto:leslocklear at hotmail.com> >; 'Cecil' <chacuff at cableone.net
>> <mailto:chacuff at cableone.net> >; 'Dave Sampson' <challanger13041 at yahoo.com
>> <mailto:challanger13041 at yahoo.com> >
>> Cc: r-390 at mailman.qth.net <mailto:r-390 at mailman.qth.net>
>> Subject: Re: [R-390] Panel Refinishing
>> 
>> https://www.myperfectcolor.com/paint/29446-us-government-fed-std-595c-26307
>> 
>> Their swatch looks nothing like the color - at least on my monitor, but
>> that's the color I bought from Coronado and it's a VERY good match to my
>> original paint R390 (I scotchbrited the FP to expose fresh, unoxidized,
>> clean color to check the match).  If you dig through the MIL specs for the
>> R390 and R390A you can verify that 26307 is correct.  It's several spec
>> layers deep.   See attached photo...
>> 
>> John
>> 
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: r-390-bounces at mailman.qth.net <mailto:r-390-bounces at mailman.qth.net>
>> <r-390-bounces at mailman.qth.net <mailto:r-390-bounces at mailman.qth.net> > On
>> Behalf Of Robert P. Meadows
>> Sent: Friday, June 7, 2019 6:42 PM
>> To: 'Les Locklear' <leslocklear at hotmail.com <mailto:
>> leslocklear at hotmail.com>
>>> ; 'Cecil' <chacuff at cableone.net <mailto:chacuff at cableone.net> >; 'Dave
>> Sampson' <challanger13041 at yahoo.com <mailto:challanger13041 at yahoo.com> >
>> Cc: r-390 at mailman.qth.net <mailto:r-390 at mailman.qth.net>
>> Subject: Re: [R-390] Panel Refinishing
>> 
>> If one takes the time to look about in the various NAVSHIPS Tech Manuals,
>> and the standards for refinishing things, a MilStd, or other standard
>> color/shade of grey will be located, as all radios were to be refinished in
>> the same color/shade, no matter which shipyard did the work.
>> R
>> 
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: r-390-bounces at mailman.qth.net <mailto:r-390-bounces at mailman.qth.net>
>> <r-390-bounces at mailman.qth.net <mailto:r-390-bounces at mailman.qth.net> > On
>> Behalf Of Les Locklear
>> Sent: Friday, June 7, 2019 6:34 PM
>> To: Cecil <chacuff at cableone.net <mailto:chacuff at cableone.net> >; Dave
>> Sampson <challanger13041 at yahoo.com <mailto:challanger13041 at yahoo.com> >
>> Cc: r-390 at mailman.qth.net <mailto:r-390 at mailman.qth.net>
>> Subject: Re: [R-390] Panel Refinishing
>> 
>> They run the color range from light gray to gray green or darker. Kind of
>> like SP-600 panels that are silver gray to dark blue/gray.
>> 
>> Les
>> 
>> 
>> ----- Original Message -----
>> From: Cecil <chacuff at cableone.net <mailto:chacuff at cableone.net> >
>> To: Dave Sampson <challanger13041 at yahoo.com
>> <mailto:challanger13041 at yahoo.com> >
>> Cc: <r-390 at mailman.qth.net <mailto:r-390 at mailman.qth.net> >
>> Sent: 6/7/2019 2:14:36 PM
>> Subject: Re: [R-390] Panel Refinishing
>> 
>> ____________________________________________________________________________
>> ____
>> 
>> One other comment....accurate paint matching....there are no standard
>> colors
>> on these things...the gray is all over the board so not sure what you
>> really
>> want it matched to.
>> 
>> If I am mis-speaking I'm sure one of the more knowledgeable will make it
>> right...
>> 
>> Cecil
>> K5DL
>> 
>> Sent from my iPad
>> 
>>> On Jun 7, 2019, at 11:36 AM, Dave Sampson via R-390 <
>> r-390 at mailman.qth.net
>> <mailto:r-390 at mailman.qth.net> > wrote:
>>> 
>>> Hello
>>>   I have a silk-screened 390A front panel that I would like to be
>> refinished using quality techniques and materials such as accurate paint
>> matching, stripping, zinc chromate primer, and baking.Can someone point me
>> in the right direction.
>>> Thanks Dave
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