[R-390] R-390 Digest, Vol 100, Issue 10

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Wed Aug 22 14:43:14 EDT 2012


Just a bit of trivia.... My ex-wife and I were both IBM professionals and we owned two M1 Carbines (.30 cal) both made by IBM. No mixed parts, all IBM. I still have mine and I guess she still has hers......

fwiw

ron
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oday's Topics:
   1. Re: R-390 Digest, Vol 100, Issue 7 (rbethman)
  2. Re: EAC Contract info in Red Bank paper
     (bavarianradio at comcast.net)
  3. Re: "all relative" (William A Kulze)
  4. Re: EAC Contract info in Red Bank paper (Clemens Ostergaard)
  5. Re: EAC Contract info in Red Bank paper (Randy and Sherry Guttery)

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ate: Wed, 22 Aug 2012 09:19:28 -0400
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Actually,  the one I specifically carried was stamped on the side of the 
agazine well with the Mattel Industries Logo.
Just as well as a .45 model 1911 was stamped as being made by GM 
ransmission Division.
Bob - N0DGN (Ret E-7)
On 8/21/2012 7:41 PM, navydude1962 at yahoo.com wrote:
 For the record Mattel made the plastics on the M16 but the GI versions were 
ll Colt

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Hello all, I guess what I'm trying to figure out is that in 1940, the RCA stack 
f "RB" receivers (RBA,RBB,RBC) cost a bit less than $10,000 (unless I'm wrong) 
hich was a bucket load of money, fast forward to  the late 60's and the R-1051 
as $25,000.00 (or thereabouts) It seems odd that the 390A would be so cheap 
ompared the radios flanking it's time frame. I know that the 390 was more 
xpensive than the "A"  but I don't have any idea what 390's cost back in 1951 
r so. Did Uncle Sam get a discount?? I doubt it... Ross W1EKG
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urther to the question of the unit price coming out at about $1350, we can
ook at the price that EAC charged for the R-390A when selling it to
ivilians (the one with the rocket like logo and no contract no.), whjich
as $1700 (and lower for new but shopworn items). That would be about
ight, DoD getting some discount ( a term not easily used in conjunction
ith the R-390A, but you know what I mean).
est,
lemens S.Ostergaard
enmark
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Wow! And I weighed 128 when I hit lackland afb way back when! Less than 2 390's!
Bill W2NVD
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ehalf Of Webb, Gary
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And I weighed 137 when Susan and I were married 38 years back.  This is a track 
e shouldn't go down.
Gary L  Webb  NI9V

I guess it's all relative, when I got married 30 years ago my wife weighed 121 
ounds.


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ate: Wed, 22 Aug 2012 17:17:37 +0200
rom: Clemens Ostergaard <clemenso at gmail.com>
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There is one of the 'civilian' EAC R-390A on  epay as we speak: 140826921991
ne previous owner and it is not Uncle Sam,
I also find the 1965-67 price low,. though of course there were no R&D
osts anymore, and for many suppliers of parts things would be routine,
fter 40.000 receivers produced previously . In today's money it would be
lose to $10.000 but still... And the $1700 would be about 12,5K.
When were they first surplused I wonder? The ads from Ted Dames were in the
orld Radio and TV Handboook in the second half of the 1970's I seem to
ecall. "World's Best Receiver, etc." The stuff of dreams (or drools).
(I get the digest, so a little out of sync regretfully)
Best,
Clemens
On Wed, Aug 22, 2012 at 3:48 PM, <bavarianradio at comcast.net> wrote:
> Hello all, I guess what I'm trying to figure out is that in 1940, the RCA
 stack of "RB" receivers (RBA,RBB,RBC) cost a bit less than $10,000 (unless
 I'm wrong) which was a bucket load of money, fast forward to  the late 60's
 and the R-1051 was $25,000.00 (or thereabouts) It seems odd that the 390A
 would be so cheap compared the radios flanking it's time frame. I know that
 the 390 was more expensive than the "A"  but I don't have any idea what
 390's cost back in 1951 or so. Did Uncle Sam get a discount?? I doubt it...
 Ross W1EKG

 ----- Original Message -----
 Further to the question of the unit price coming out at about $1350, we can
 look at the price that EAC charged for the R-390A when selling it to
 civilians (the one with the rocket like logo and no contract no.), whjich
 was $1700 (and lower for new but shopworn items). That would be about
 right, DoD getting some discount ( a term not easily used in conjunction
 with the R-390A, but you know what I mean).
 Best,
 Clemens S.Ostergaard
 Denmark
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n 8/22/2012 10:17 AM, Clemens Ostergaard wrote:

 When were they first surplused I wonder? The ads from Ted Dames were in the
 World Radio and TV Handboook in the second half of the 1970's I seem to
 recall. "World's Best Receiver, etc." The stuff of dreams (or drools).

90s started being "phased out" in the late 1960s.  Many of 
hem served their second life in related activities - such 
s base HAM shacks, MARS units, etc.
90/As also began to find their way "out" by the early 
970s.  I bought my first 390s in 1973 direct from the DSA 
urplus outlet - for $0.20 a pound. At one point we had one 
90, two 391s, six 390/As a couple of BC-348s - and an 
-1051 (D IIRC).  Never did get the 1051 to work - I guess 
hat was why is was red tagged.  Didn't like them anyway so 
old it to a HAM.  Problem was, of course - shipping.  
etting that much weight from Guam back to CONUS was an 
ssue.  Even as an E6 with almost no furniture - we bumped 
ard into the weight limits...  (sadly most of the heavy 
ron had to be left behind).  Some things went through 
uctions - but again prices were held down by shipping. I 
magine much the same was going on in CONUS - but those with 
access"  were scooping up the early stuff.
best regards...
-- 
andy guttery
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