[R-390] security classification

jcoward5452 at aol.com jcoward5452 at aol.com
Fri Jun 4 11:55:09 EDT 2010



When I worked at Avantek I had the red dot badge but that was Secret,not Top Secret.What was secret were the frequencies of the various bands the components operated at.We had to cover frequency counter displays or have the display numerically offset,Same with spectrum analizers.ATE's were in padlocked rooms and any test software had to be checked out and in to a vault.Even some of the customers were classified secret. Amazing all the trouble we went to and now all that stuff is obsolete and turns up at flea markets and surplus places and even ebay.
 As to the R-390, 390A  there was a small flip up security cover that could be mounted on the frequency display.
 Jay




-----Original Message-----
From: Bernie Doran <qedconsultants at embarqmail.com>
To: r-390 at mailman.qth.net
Sent: Fri, Jun 4, 2010 8:24 am
Subject: Re: [R-390] security classification


yep, likewise, I had secret documents in my hands once at North American 
ockwell,  signed out, signed in, from a vault, and in your sight/ control 
t all times, if you went to the can they went with you!!! confidential was 
uch less so and stored in the work area. Never even heard how top secret 
as done. I would wager that it, and you had to remain in a totally secure 
rea.  anyone with top secret clearance had a red dot on thier id badge, 
lmost all I ever saw( people) worked in advanced design.    That is why I 
hink this is just another story, perhaps secret during design and maybe 
onfid. later but even that had all docs stamped top and bottom.     Bernie 
.S. and then the is the  letter clearance!!!
---- Original Message ----- 
rom: "mikea" <mikea at mikea.ath.cx>
o: <r-390 at mailman.qth.net>
ent: Friday, June 04, 2010 7:40 AM
ubject: Re: [R-390] security classification

 On Fri, Jun 04, 2010 at 07:04:47AM -0400, Bernie Doran wrote:
> I have seen numerous statements that the 390 and 390A were classified. I
> have never seen a manual with secret or other stamped across it and am
> thinking this is just another tale that had been passed on and on untill 
> it
> takes on a life of its own.  Like the so called Bermuda triangle.  Does
> anyone have FIRST HAND knowledge?   The number is use and record keeping 
> for
> classified material would have made this nearly impossible.  Thanks 
> Bernie

 I don't have first-hand knowledge, or even second-hand knowledge, of the
 390 or 390A being classified. I do know that in 1969 they were being
 removed from the MARS shack at Osan AB, ROK, to be replaced by something
 else, after being in service there for some years. The MARS shack was
 open to all military and civilian personnel, so the rigs weren't
 classified during the period they were in use there.

 I've worked with classified gear, and the precautions required before
 uncleared personnel were allowed in would have been totally unrealistic
 in a MARS shack.

 -- 
 Mike Andrews, W5EGO
 mikea at mikea.ath.cx
 Tired old sysadmin
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