[R-390] WWV Time
george stringe
egnirts at comcast.net
Thu Dec 4 16:24:05 EST 2008
True for sure, but then there is the thing about where the decimal point
goes.....
george
w9ya wrote:
> The slide rule can give you an accurate answer. But so will pen and
> paper. The answer you seek is based on the CORRECT formula being
> undertaken. (That or I have no idea what you are seeking.)
>
> Bob
> w9ya
>
> On Thu, Dec 4, 2008 at 2:11 PM, george stringe <egnirts at comcast.net
> <mailto:egnirts at comcast.net>> wrote:
>
> Bob old buddy, I understand what you are saying but that is not
> the point at all about my question......its about the slide rule
> and the interpretation of the beats per second or seconds per beat
> etc. Hey I still have my old slide rule but it has lots of dust
> on it. Others have said they are quick and easy but no answers
> yet..... and I think my 5 Hz interpretation is not correct
> either.....maybe....
>
> george
> WG0S
>
>
>
> rbethman wrote:
>
> George,
>
> Here is your original message requoted:
>
> george stringe wrote:
>
> OK so here is a test for all the slide rule junkies: I
> have my Wavetek sig gen all warmed up and my BA
> Hallicrafter SX-71 tuned to WWV at 2.5Mhz. When the
> generator is
> set at 2.50000 Mhz, I am guessing that I get 4
> beats/second, if I set the gen at 2.50001, I get 2
> seconds per beat. So, what is my generator accuracy
> percentage?
>
> As a second question, which doesn't require a slide rule,
> how do I reply or keep messages in the same thread?
>
> Cheers,
>
> george
> WG0S
>
> First problem: "set at 2.50000 Mhz, I am guessing that I get
> 4 beats/second"
>
> So we "begin with a GUESS". Is the second part ANY more
> accurate? "if I set the gen at 2.50001, I get 2 seconds per beat."
>
> I see NO reason to begin even TRYING to get out the slide rule
> with that sort of detail, or lack thereof.
>
> It is precisely WHY my signal generator sat on the bench -
> WITH my oscilloscope - for 72 hours in the Electronics
> Lab/Repair facility. Their frequency references ARE traceable
> to NIST. They have to be for the research they are doing.
>
> Bob - N0DGN
>
> george stringe wrote:
>
> With all due respects guys, and I appreciate your input
> but this really was not an exercise in how to best measure
> frequency. Even if I am only 40 miles from the WWV
> transmitter, I realize it is not perfect, it was just an
> exercise for all those who have professed a love for the
> slide rule....and as such, the responses are slim so far
> ;-) If I am 5 Hz off in 2.5 million, my calculator says
> that is .000002 percent. That can't be correct can it?
>
> george
> WG0S
>
>
>
> Gord Hayward wrote:
>
> Using WWV to ascertain the generator accuracy
> percentage is VERY problematic.
>
>
>
> It is - the path length is important for absolute
> time, then there's the variance of the reflection height.
> That gives a variable path length as well as a Doppler
> shift with the motion. WWVB is better.
> Cheers, Gord.
>
>
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