[R-390] Re: Bad Overseas EBay Experience

[John Kolb]

As I recall, when someone made a paypal payment to me using a non-existant
paypal account name, the payment was refunded to them automatically after
three days when nobody joined with that name to claim the payment.

John

At 11:36 AM 3/30/2006, Barry Hauser wrote:
>>The moral is don't get mad like I did and go off half cocked, just 
>>makes things worse.  Now have to contact PayPal and try to get the 
>>second payment back that he can't get out of PayPal since he 
>>doesn't use it. Surprised PayPal even took the payment.
>>
>>Bill N6PY
>
>
>Yeah Bill, we told you so, nyaa nyaa ;-)
>
>As I mentioned privately, copies of cancelled checks -- front and 
>back -- go a long way to proving payment and getting around 
>bookkeeping and ID glitches that can occur.
>
>As far as paypal is concerned:  If he _does not have a paypal 
>account_, then you should still be able to cancel the payment and it 
>will do a credit card credit.  If he (or someone else) does have a 
>paypal account under the ID you paid to, then the recipient has to 
>either refuse the payment or, if it went through, issue a 
>refund.  He may not be aware that he can do this and if it's in that 
>status, paypal may refuse to undo the payment just like that. You 
>may have to explain to the seller that it was credited to his 
>account, and while he doesn't use paypal, he can still issue a 
>refund -- there is a procedure for that.  If he "doesn't use paypal" 
>the funds are still credited to his account because -- not using it 
>-- he, therefore, has not requested a check or transfer to his 
>bank.  In other words, you paid a viable paypal account and he still 
>has access to it from his end.
>
>Best to have him issue a refund as such -- which exists -- not a 
>repayment, otherwise the fees are charged again as if he bought 
>something from you. First step though is to go into your paypal 
>account and scroll down to the transaction and read carefully -- it 
>might say "pending" or similar and have a "cancel" button next to 
>it.  If it looks like all the others, then it credited to his 
>account and you go with Plan B.
>
>Hope this helps.
>
>Barry
>
>
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