[R-390] QTH.NET and the sorbs conspiracy

[Jim M.]

Apparently Tom Norris is using Google mail (gmail).  Google embeds 
advertising to pay for the "free" service.  Does this advertising find its 
way into outgoing emails and get blocked by sorbs?  The sorbs website is 
http://www.us.sorbs.net/   maybe that can help.

----- Original Message ----- 
From: <w9ya at arrl.net>
To: <bill at iaxs.net>
Cc: <r390radio at gmail.com>; <r-390 at mailman.qth.net>
Sent: Wednesday, December 07, 2005 2:49 AM
Subject: RE: [R-390] QTH.NET and the sorbs conspiracy


> What is truly ironic is that qth.net was/is a user of the sorbs lists
> themselves. Hi...Hi....
> (I know because I tried to explain the very argument below for NOT using
> sorbs to the owner of qth.net a while back to no avail. And I am being
> polite about how my argument was received by saying "to no avail".)
>
> Vy 73;
>
> Bob
> w9ya
>
>
>> Welcome to the club!
>>
>> SORBS is an acronym for something. It is also the name of a group
>> of highwaymen that have set out on the holy quest to rid the internet of
>> spam. Highwaymen? You bet! If your ISP lets a spammer slip through then
>> SORBS blacklists them until they have paid for every bit of spam that
>> SORBS has received. Never mind that the ISP was not the spammer. They
>> should have had some software in place that intercepted the spam.
>>
>> This goes back to the days when some ISPs were open gateways for spam,
>> like GTE. Now, the only spam that gets through an ISP is from somebody
>> who signed up with the ISP and agreed not to spam, but didn't mean it.
>> SORBS thinks that the ISP should have somehow known better.
>>
>> SORBS distributes its blacklist services for free. They make their money
>> by holding ISPs hostage until they pay the toll. The only way out of
>> this is for people who use SORBS' "service" to realize what's going on
>> and drop SORBS. It is still true that you get what you pay for.
>>
>> My ISP let a spammer slip through for a day before they shut him down,
>> back in August. They will not pay SORBS and so they are still on the
>> block list. Been there, heard both sides, want nothing to do with SORBS.
>>
>> Ho, ho, ho
>> Bill Hawkins
>>
>>
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: r-390-bounces at mailman.qth.net
>> [mailto:r-390-bounces at mailman.qth.net]On Behalf Of Tom Norris
>> Sent: Tuesday, December 06, 2005 8:57 PM
>> To: r-390 at mailman.qth.net
>> Subject: [R-390] QTH.NET and the sorbs conspiracy
>>
>>
>> The past week or so about half of what I post to the list gets bounced
>> back by s.o.r.b.s. as being "spam" or at least it gets bounced back
>> because someone at bellsouth sent spam somewhere at sometime and one of
>> the ip addresses in that address pool is marked as evil.
>>
>> The sorbs website gives users whose mail has bounced a chance to input
>> their ip address and "clear their name" so to speak. Trouble is, I'm on
>> dialup and therefore have a dynamic ip.
>>
>> I call BellSouth and they have no idea what I'm talking about, nor do
>> they care when I give them the information.
>>
>> Anyone else getting email on QTH.net lists bounced back by this sorbs
>> service?????
>>
>> This is becoming more and more frequent to the point that posting is
>> nearly impossible on any of the lists I'm subscribed to on qth.net.
>>
>>
>> Tom
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