[R-390] QTH.NET and the sorbs conspiracy

[w9ya at arrl.net]

What is truly ironic is that qth.net was/is a user of the sorbs lists
themselves. Hi...Hi....
(I know because I tried to explain the very argument below for NOT using
sorbs to the owner of qth.net a while back to no avail. And I am being
polite about how my argument was received by saying "to no avail".)

Vy 73;

Bob
w9ya


> Welcome to the club!
>
> SORBS is an acronym for something. It is also the name of a group
> of highwaymen that have set out on the holy quest to rid the internet of
> spam. Highwaymen? You bet! If your ISP lets a spammer slip through then
> SORBS blacklists them until they have paid for every bit of spam that
> SORBS has received. Never mind that the ISP was not the spammer. They
> should have had some software in place that intercepted the spam.
>
> This goes back to the days when some ISPs were open gateways for spam,
> like GTE. Now, the only spam that gets through an ISP is from somebody
> who signed up with the ISP and agreed not to spam, but didn't mean it.
> SORBS thinks that the ISP should have somehow known better.
>
> SORBS distributes its blacklist services for free. They make their money
> by holding ISPs hostage until they pay the toll. The only way out of
> this is for people who use SORBS' "service" to realize what's going on
> and drop SORBS. It is still true that you get what you pay for.
>
> My ISP let a spammer slip through for a day before they shut him down,
> back in August. They will not pay SORBS and so they are still on the
> block list. Been there, heard both sides, want nothing to do with SORBS.
>
> Ho, ho, ho
> Bill Hawkins
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: r-390-bounces at mailman.qth.net
> [mailto:r-390-bounces at mailman.qth.net]On Behalf Of Tom Norris
> Sent: Tuesday, December 06, 2005 8:57 PM
> To: r-390 at mailman.qth.net
> Subject: [R-390] QTH.NET and the sorbs conspiracy
>
>
> The past week or so about half of what I post to the list gets bounced
> back by s.o.r.b.s. as being "spam" or at least it gets bounced back
> because someone at bellsouth sent spam somewhere at sometime and one of
> the ip addresses in that address pool is marked as evil.
>
> The sorbs website gives users whose mail has bounced a chance to input
> their ip address and "clear their name" so to speak. Trouble is, I'm on
> dialup and therefore have a dynamic ip.
>
> I call BellSouth and they have no idea what I'm talking about, nor do
> they care when I give them the information.
>
> Anyone else getting email on QTH.net lists bounced back by this sorbs
> service?????
>
> This is becoming more and more frequent to the point that posting is
> nearly impossible on any of the lists I'm subscribed to on qth.net.
>
>
> Tom
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