[R-390] R-390 History
Bob Camp
ham at cq.nu
Wed Jul 7 20:21:40 EDT 2004
Hi
In US service the really crazy module swapping seems to have happened
as part of major depot level work on the radios. I was wondering if
there were enough for the Kiel Depot to do the same sort of thing. Of
course the guys at the Marinearsenal Kiel may simply have had different
work habits or different objectives when they did the work.
If the matching numbers is a normal thing for radios in German Naval
service I bet we get the R-390 vs EK-07 thread going again in no time
at all .....
Take Care!
Bob Camp
KB8TQ
On Jul 7, 2004, at 11:23 AM, Schluensen wrote:
> Hi Bob and the List,
>
> I don't know how many 390A's did work in the German Navy. But - Full
> Service
> was made by the "Marinearsenal Kiel". My Receiver came directly from
> the
> Marinearsenal Kiel in 1982. Today all SW Receivers in the Navy are from
> HAGENUK (RX 1001M) and from TELEFUNKEN/DASA (E1800).
>
> 73,
> Frank, DK1LX
>
>
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Bob Camp" <ham at cq.nu>
> To: "Schluensen" <schluensen at freenet.de>
> Cc: "JamesMiller" <jmiller1706 at cfl.rr.com>; <R-390 at mailman.qth.net>
> Sent: Wednesday, July 07, 2004 3:28 AM
> Subject: Re: [R-390] R-390 History
>
>
> Hi
>
> How many R-390's were in German Navy service? Did they have enough of
> them to do their own depot level maintenance on the radios?
>
> Take Care!
>
> Bob Camp
> KB8TQ
>
> On Jul 6, 2004, at 5:05 PM, Schluensen wrote:
>
>> I have a 67EAC with all modules from EAC. The Receiver came from the
>> German
>> Navy (1. Z-Geschwader "Rommel", "Lütjens" and "Mölders"). These 3
>> Ships (US
>> "Charles F. Adams" - Class) where build in the 1960's in USA.
>>
>> 73,
>> Frank, DK1LX
>>
>>
>> ----- Original Message -----
>> From: "JamesMiller" <jmiller1706 at cfl.rr.com>
>> To: "Bob Camp" <ham at cq.nu>; <rbethman at comcast.net>
>> Cc: "r-390" <r-390 at mailman.qth.net>
>> Sent: Tuesday, July 06, 2004 4:23 AM
>> Subject: Re: [R-390] R-390 History
>>
>>
>>> I have heard that serial number tags were often replaced during depot
>>> maintenance, so the tag on your radio is probably not the original
>>> anyway.
>>> Likewise, the modular design meant that depot repairs could be done
>>> by
>>> replacing entire modules... over the life of service, I would wonder
>>> if a
>>> given radio even has its original modules.
>>>
>>> ----- Original Message -----
>>> From: "Bob Camp" <ham at cq.nu>
>>> To: <rbethman at comcast.net>
>>> Cc: "r-390" <r-390 at mailman.qth.net>
>>> Sent: Monday, July 05, 2004 10:04 PM
>>> Subject: Re: [R-390] R-390 History
>>>
>>>
>>>> Hi
>>>>
>>>> We still have some of that "destroy in 24 months" paperwork around
>>>> from
>>>> the Revolution. If you spend enough time (read months) it's amazing
>>>> what you can turn up. You are not going to find a full trail but you
>>>> might get lucky and get a good idea of were your radio (or at least
>>>> ones in the same serial number sequence) went.
>>>>
>>>> Take Care!
>>>>
>>>> Bob Camp
>>>> KB8TQ
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> On Jul 5, 2004, at 9:54 PM, Rbethman wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> Hi Dave,
>>>>>
>>>>> I suspect that it will be totally futile.
>>>>>
>>>>> I was inn service from '60s until very late '80s.
>>>>>
>>>>> Some records were NOT required to be kept beyond 24 months.
>>>>> After
>>>>> that period they were simply destroyed.
>>>>>
>>>>> Especially true for older equipment that went for turn in and
>>>>> disposal.
>>>>>
>>>>> Bob - N0DGN
>>>>>
>>>>> Bob Camp wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>> Hi
>>>>>>
>>>>>> I suspect that at least with the 390 and 390A the question will
>>>>>> come
>>>>>> up "what's my radio?". With the ones I have here it's the odd one
>>>>>> that actually has the numbers on the front and rear panels
>>>>>> matching.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> That said if you want to go for it the archives must have all the
>>>>>> darn paperwork that transfered the radios from point to point. The
>>>>>> same archives probably have the normal unit inventory
>>>>>> documentation
>>>>>> as well. In both cases the information you are after is going to
>>>>>> be
>>>>>> buried in with a whole bunch of other stuff. You should be able to
>>>>>> get access to it but boy will it take time.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> More or less:
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Radio has serial number, so we know when it was made. There must
>>>>>> be a
>>>>>> record of it going from the factory to a depot.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Depot records should exist and show who it was sent out to.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Unit inventory should confirm that they had the radio.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Since the unit no longer has the radio there must be paper that
>>>>>> moved
>>>>>> it out of that unit.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> If you can find 20% of those records you are doing *very* well.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> The national archives have a web site so you can at least look
>>>>>> into
>>>>>> what's involved in researching those records.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Take Care!
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Bob Camp
>>>>>> KB8TQ
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> On Jul 5, 2004, at 11:45 PM, Dave Faria wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> This may be a futile exercise but, I would like to trace the
>>>>>>> history
>>>>>>> of my 390a, 390, 391, 392, and 388. If its possible back to the
>>>>>>> duty stations. Anyone know how to do this??
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> It would be an interesting exercise. Yep I'm retired - sorta
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Thanks for your thoughts before hand
>>>>>>> Dave Faria/WA5TEZ
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