[R-390] RANT: The Delete Key and Unwanted Threads

[rbethman at comcast.net]

Cecil - You are dead on the money.
I didn't want to blow off steam - BUT maybe I should have!
This is the "groups" list.  What went on this weekend WAS enjoined by GROUP Members.
The delete key works for me,  If there is an issue - LIVE WITH IT!
I'm going to go brown up some Kielbasa!  I may go admire MY ballast tubes.
Cheers to ALL.
Bob - N0DGN

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> Barry.....as usual you crack me up!!! What a Hoot! 
> 
> I think anyone that spends any time at all in the archives will also 
> discover Barry's sense of humor archived there as well and not get the wrong 
> idea about this list.... 
> 
> I have discovered over the last several years that this list seems to have 3 
> modes: 
> 
> 1) Informative mode....where technical and/or historical questions are 
> answered in a very professional and authoritative fashion! 
> 
> 2) Idle mode.....where humor and general chit-chat is enjoyed by 
> most...silly? Probably...but no different than what we would do if we were 
> all to show up in 
> a room together for a day to fellowship with one another over a few 
> beers! (sounds like fun...we should plan that!) 
> 
> 3) DEAD mode....where the heck did everybody go? 
> 
> Modes 1 & 2 are what have formed the "Personality" of this list over the 
> years and made it one of the best lists on the reflector. 
> 
> Mode 3 is what the list resorted to after the last spanking everybody got 
> because of the complaints of a few who felt there was no place for Mode 2. 
> 
> Personally I would much rather cruise along with Mode 2 and keep the Mode 1 
> flowing as demand presents itself than have it resort to Mode 3 which is of 
> no use to anyone! We have been there! 
> 
> Frankly with today's technology the "Bandwidth" argument is moot! If you 
> are still getting this list through a 9.6K dial-up it's time to invest in 
> something other than radio parts.....namely some computer technology 
> upgrades. Cable or DSL is well worth the cost (around $30-$35 per month 
> for T-1 rates..1.544MB).....but if that is still out of reach...unlimited 
> 56K dialup is only around $11 now a days....as advertised on TV. 
> 
> And yea I know you checked the archives for the last decade and didn't find 
> much contribution from me either (check the R1051 list)....but what you 
> should also note was no complaining either....I don't consider myself an 
> R390X guru due to my limited experience. (fixin to change somewhat) 
> 
> I wade through all the posts too and what it does do for me is gives me a 
> feel for the personality of the individuals who frequent the list. A new 
> piece is plugged in each time an individual posts while in mode 2. 
> Personally the people side of this business is as important as the technical 
> side.... 
> 
> This list stuff is not all about "Cherry Pickin".....it does have an 
> important social side as well! 
> 
> Try walking into a mechanics shop and asking a technical question about a 
> problem you are having with your 1957 Chevy and want to fix yourself and see 
> what you get...but hang out a while and develop a social relationship with 
> the shop and maybe drop by with some doughnuts one Saturday morning and next 
> thing you know you'll probably have all the information you need.... 
> 
> Maybe a bad analogy but same principal.....nobody owes us anything on here 
> but you are likely to get anything you need if you rate high marks on "Works 
> and Plays well with others".... 
> 
> Just some thoughts.... 
> 
> Cecil Acuff 
> WB5VCE 
> 
> Too many radio's to list! 
> 
> 
> ----- Original Message ----- 
> From: "Jim Brannigan" 
> To: "Barry Hauser" ; "Clay Curtiss W7CE" 
> ; 
> Sent: Tuesday, July 06, 2004 7:44 PM 
> Subject: Re: [R-390] RANT: The Delete Key and Unwanted Threads 
> 
> 
> > Hi there Barry, 
> > Your response to Clay might be considered snotty or obnoxious by some. 
> > This is a technical reflector and many people ( including myself) have 
> > learned a great deal about our R-390 radios. 
> > I really appreciate the wealth of knowledge and helpful character of the 
> > members. 
> > A person who was merely browsing the digests or achieves might be turned 
> off 
> > by the adolescent (juvenile?) humor (sic) that seems to permeate this 
> > reflector. 
> > While the delete key is useful, each posting needs to perused to determine 
> > if it contains useful information. After a 100 or so "Humorous" postings, 
> > one tends to delete ALL....and much useful information could be lost.... 
> > 
> > best and sincerest regards 
> > Jim 
> > > Hi there, Clay -- 
> > > 
> > > I get 100's of emails a day. Can't rely on the spam filter software. 
> > > 
> > > With this list, it seems to be feast or famine. Even with all those on- 
> > and 
> > > off-topic posts, I noticed that some previously frequent contributors 
> were 
> > > absent. Maybe on vacation. I suspect the extra activity was due to the 
> > > vacation day. Rest assured, the list will return to its previous state 
> > very 
> > > soon. 
> > > 
> > > The simple and wonderful fact is: You don't have to suffer the 
> > inconvenience 
> > > of high volumes of mail -- OT or otherwise. You have the option of 
> > changing 
> > > to digest or no-email mode. It's easy to go to the qth site and read 
> the 
> > > posts right there, at your full convenience. 
> > > 
> > > You needn't even be subscribed to read the posts on the site -- only if 
> > you 
> > > want to post something. However, a quick check of the archives shows 
> that 
> > > your two posts the last day or two -- complaining about the OT's -- 
> were 
> > > the only posts you made at least since January. (I didn't check before 
> > > that.) If you change to no-mail mode, or unsubscribe altogether, you'd 
> be 
> > > liberated of the burden of all that deleting -- and, it would seem, have 
> > no 
> > > apparent remaining reason to post anything here anyway. 
> > > 
> > > True, nowadays, a crowded inbox is highly problematical. There is a lot 
> > of 
> > > spam filter software out there, but I've tried three and had problems 
> will 
> > > all of them. In my case, it's too time consuming to use the delete key. 
> > > Periodically, I archive my entire inbox and create an empty one. But, 
> the 
> > > thing is, as far as the lists are concerned, you can control what comes 
> in 
> > > and and save that 8 minutes of your life that this list wasted -- 
> > projected 
> > > to an onerous 50 hrs per year. 
> > > 
> > > (Incidentally, this is not a moderated list in the sense that each post 
> > has 
> > > to be approved by the moderator. Some lists are run that way.) 
> > > 
> > > So, very sympathetic to your plight, and particularly sorry if some of 
> > those 
> > > burdensome deletables were from me. However, all the foregoing 
> > considered, 
> > > if your plan is as stated: "I'll go back into reading mode and wait for 
> > > something interesting to show up." (i.e., you're unlikely to contribute 
> > > anything), then your original impulse to unsubscribe was probably an 
> > > excellent idea. And, by unsubscribing, you will reduced the bandwidth 
> > > burden on the QTH reflector at the head end. 
> > > 
> > > Just trying to do my bit to spare you the needless tedium. I do agree 
> > with 
> > > you wholeheartedly -- this is not a library -- not a good analogy. The 
> > idea 
> > > of a list is something more interactive, otherwise it doesn't really 
> make 
> > > much sense. However, the archives, various websites, pearls of wisdom 
> and 
> > > so on -- DO make for a convenient online library. So, there's really no 
> > > need to wait for someting interesting to show up here. Most of the 
> > > interesting stuff has been done, written up, categorized, compiled. 
> > > Sometimes all that's left is kielbasa. 
> > > 
> > > Hope this helps, 
> > > 
> > > best and sincerest regards, 
> > > Barry 
> > 
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