[R-390] [Fwd: [Milsurplus] RE: R-390-A Engraved Panels]

Tue, 1 Apr 2003 09:21:23 -0800 (PST)

Actually, Bob,

The response was enough to make a run for it.  One guy
even offered to front money to get it started.  The
company was just too difficult to deal with, they just
couldn't get the artwork right!  This after Barry
Williams did the illustration for them!!

What they were showing me was NOTHING like what I gave
them.

Joe

--- Bob Tetrault <[email protected]> wrote:
> Dan,
> 
> Over and over I see guys on this list do the legwork
> to cook up a good deal
> for everyoneonly to see their efforts discounted by
> the cheapo's. I was/am
> still sincerely interested in your EK-07's but I
> just haven't got the
> scratch. But you'll notice that I didn't whine about
> it that you must be
> jacking the price up. It seems like a good deal but
> I haven't got the dough.
> End of story. Ditto for the engraved panels. A
> reasonable price considering
> the job. I have never seen a scratch-built or widget
> product for the amateur
> market succeed without humongous marketing $$; too
> many cheapo's cry about
> it. The major equipment makers such as ICOM and the
> like are largely
> subsidized by the other markets that they serve, or
> the military markets for
> other countries, so they don't have to recoup all
> their development costs on
> the cheapo's.
> 
> I'd still like to have a Zippo with a 390
> silkscreen, but Joe Foley couldn't
> swing the cost/committed order gap.
> 
> But keep that thinking cap on, Dan. Not that you'd
> take it off at my
> suggestion!
> 
> Bob
> 
> -----Original Message-----
> From: [email protected]
> [mailto:[email protected]]On
> Behalf Of Dan Arney
> Sent: Monday, March 31, 2003 8:24 PM
> To: [email protected]; R-390
> Subject: Re: [R-390] [Fwd: [Milsurplus] RE: R-390-A
> Engraved Panels]
> 
> 
> Bob, Well after sitting on the sidelines for some
> length of time I
> decided to see if an engraved panel could be made at
> some kind of
> reasonable cost.
> 
> First I talked to some stamping houses that would
> use a 250 ton press to
> hit the panel plus the trip to even the stamps out.
> Stamp die estimate
> at 15 to 17 K for starters.
> 
> I then went to the CNC house that did the SX-88
> Bezels for me.
> They estimate 6 to 8 hours to program the CNC plus
> proof test on the
> quality of the engraving. not cheap.
> After spending some time in costing I came up with a
> turnkey estimate of
> $150.00 per panel.
> My guess was an order of 30 units would give me (God
> Forbid) a small
> profit for my effort. So I posted an honest offer to
> provide a Quality
> job for all of the comments from the people wanting
> an engraved panel.
> Guess what the old saying of "Money Talks and Bull
> S--- Walks" still
> stands. I have had 3 legitimate offers to order, 3
> to sell panels to the
> needy, for to just engrave his existing panel with 4
> direct replies that
> I am ripping people off.
> 
> So I challenge anyone to get off of their dead A$$
> and do a quality
> turnkey job as I have offered.
> 
> "IT BOILS DOWN TO PUT UP OR SHUT UP"
> 
> So if the this not work any other posts with
> reference to engraved
> panels should be assigned to the circular file 26,
> or delete key.
> This should then make for a lot of silk screened
> panels.
> 
> If I do not get the required orders by 4-15-03 then
> this price/offer is
> down the drain. My original post says it all.
> 
> Hope this gets by the censor.
> 
> Thanks es 73
> Hank
> KN6DI
> 
> 
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