[R-1051] Six pack attack

[paul swed]

With respect to 6 pacs I have a A type I plan to put it on the bench
and make sure it works by feeding the various signals and power into it. As
mentioned it does not do the 100 hz steps.
But believe the other modules will be useful for my operating 6 pacs.
One of those almost next up deals.
Paul
WB8TSL

On Thu, Dec 12, 2019 at 5:08 PM paul swed <paulswedb at gmail.com> wrote:

> I was there when the satellites came along. Certainly made for a good
> nights sleep. AN/SSR1 for fleet broadcast and AN/WSC-3 for sat commos. No
> more HF propagation issues.
> I firmly believe tons and I do mean tons of the gear went to other navy's
> particularly South America.
> I seen pix of depots and the stacks of R1051 class things.
> Regards
> Paul.
>
> On Thu, Dec 12, 2019 at 4:26 PM Nick England <navy.radio at gmail.com> wrote:
>
>> My (probably flawed) understanding -
>> By the time of their introduction, there was really not any call for an HF
>> transceiver on larger ships.
>> The URC-58 (RF-301) transceiver was installed on smaller craft "pending
>> availability of URC-35" - but I guess there wasn't much reason to replace
>> the URC-58 with something bigger and heavier...
>> On larger ships, you had separate transmit and receive antennas. The
>> receivers were doubled up for diversity for receiving fleet broadcasts
>> plus
>> ship-shore terminations. Fewer transmitters were needed because they just
>> didn't need to do that much HF transmission - inter-ship relay and
>> tactical
>> circuits were UHF.
>> And then satellites came along.......
>>
>> Nick England K4NYW
>> www.navy-radio.com
>>
>>
>> On Thu, Dec 12, 2019 at 3:57 PM Ray Fantini <RAFANTINI at salisbury.edu>
>> wrote:
>>
>> > Mr. B has one of his T-827 listed on EBay now and looking at it can see
>> > it has the 1000 CPS knob so I imagine that makes it the same six pack as
>> > the 1051 B/C? think only the oldest straight 1051 did not have that
>> > additional knob?
>> >
>> > You can see the item in question at:
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> https://www.ebay.com/itm/NAVY-Military-Radio-T-827b-HF-Transmitter-USB-LSB-AM-CW-FSK-2-30MC/113709635486?hash=item1a799f579e:g:O7YAAOSwSv9cqAWf
>> >
>> > If anyone is interested in one of those things he told me he would sell
>> > them for less. Looking at what's stuffed into a R-1051 and the T-827
>> makes
>> > you wonder just how they fit all that into the same box for the RT-618?
>> >
>> > Question: There are tons of R-1051 receivers around, so you know a lot
>> > were deployed in large numbers. For some strange reason seeing some
>> T-827
>> > also but the RT-618/URC-35 from my experience just don't show up in the
>> > same numbers. Was the URC-35 a dog? Is that why you don't see them? I
>> had
>> > one opportunity to buy one years ago and that was for a lot of money so
>> did
>> > not do it and it went fast. The Sunair URC-92 and stuff is plentiful and
>> > cheap and at least in my experience a way better radio but it has the
>> > advantage of being ten years newer. I have owned, repaired and sold
>> several
>> > of them along with owning several R-1051 receivers and I have a strange
>> > Harris URC-94 that I love but in years of dealing with this stuff have
>> > never owned and only saw maybe one or two URC-35 (RT-618) sets.
>> >
>> > Ray F/KA3EKH
>> >
>> > -----Original Message-----
>> > From: r-1051-bounces at mailman.qth.net <r-1051-bounces at mailman.qth.net>
>> On
>> > Behalf Of Nick England
>> > Sent: Thursday, December 12, 2019 2:37 PM
>> > To: R-1051 Discussion Group <r-1051 at mailman.qth.net>
>> > Subject: Re: [R-1051] Six pack attack
>> >
>> > FWIW, I have started a chart of all the module part numbers towards the
>> > bottom of a page at http://www.navy-radio.com/rcvrs/r1051.htm
>> >
>> > I have numbers for several R-1051 models and a couple of RT-618 models.
>> I
>> > need to dig around for T-827 info.
>> > Please let me know of additions, corrections, etc.
>> >
>> > Nick England K4NYW
>> > www.navy-radio.com
>> >
>> >
>> > On Thu, Dec 12, 2019 at 12:23 PM John P. Caldwell <jcaldwell at rbcos.com>
>> > wrote:
>> >
>> > > Ray,
>> > >
>> > > The six pack assembly is "sort of" interchangeable with the T-827,
>> > > depending on the synthesizer module.  Six packs are NOT
>> > > interchangeable between the
>> > > 1051 and 1051B/C.  The 1051 six pack has a 500 CPS synth module, the
>> > > 1051B and later uses a 100 CPS synth module so they can't be
>> > > substituted.  I believe the same applies with the T-827
>> > >
>> > >
>> > >
>> > > John Caldwell
>> > >
>> > > W8SDA (ex WD8INC)
>> > >
>> > >
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