[R-1051] Six pack attack

[paul swed]

I was there when the satellites came along. Certainly made for a good
nights sleep. AN/SSR1 for fleet broadcast and AN/WSC-3 for sat commos. No
more HF propagation issues.
I firmly believe tons and I do mean tons of the gear went to other navy's
particularly South America.
I seen pix of depots and the stacks of R1051 class things.
Regards
Paul.

On Thu, Dec 12, 2019 at 4:26 PM Nick England <navy.radio at gmail.com> wrote:

> My (probably flawed) understanding -
> By the time of their introduction, there was really not any call for an HF
> transceiver on larger ships.
> The URC-58 (RF-301) transceiver was installed on smaller craft "pending
> availability of URC-35" - but I guess there wasn't much reason to replace
> the URC-58 with something bigger and heavier...
> On larger ships, you had separate transmit and receive antennas. The
> receivers were doubled up for diversity for receiving fleet broadcasts plus
> ship-shore terminations. Fewer transmitters were needed because they just
> didn't need to do that much HF transmission - inter-ship relay and tactical
> circuits were UHF.
> And then satellites came along.......
>
> Nick England K4NYW
> www.navy-radio.com
>
>
> On Thu, Dec 12, 2019 at 3:57 PM Ray Fantini <RAFANTINI at salisbury.edu>
> wrote:
>
> > Mr. B has one of his T-827 listed on EBay now and looking at it can see
> > it has the 1000 CPS knob so I imagine that makes it the same six pack as
> > the 1051 B/C? think only the oldest straight 1051 did not have that
> > additional knob?
> >
> > You can see the item in question at:
> >
> >
> >
> https://www.ebay.com/itm/NAVY-Military-Radio-T-827b-HF-Transmitter-USB-LSB-AM-CW-FSK-2-30MC/113709635486?hash=item1a799f579e:g:O7YAAOSwSv9cqAWf
> >
> > If anyone is interested in one of those things he told me he would sell
> > them for less. Looking at what's stuffed into a R-1051 and the T-827
> makes
> > you wonder just how they fit all that into the same box for the RT-618?
> >
> > Question: There are tons of R-1051 receivers around, so you know a lot
> > were deployed in large numbers. For some strange reason seeing some T-827
> > also but the RT-618/URC-35 from my experience just don't show up in the
> > same numbers. Was the URC-35 a dog? Is that why you don't see them? I had
> > one opportunity to buy one years ago and that was for a lot of money so
> did
> > not do it and it went fast. The Sunair URC-92 and stuff is plentiful and
> > cheap and at least in my experience a way better radio but it has the
> > advantage of being ten years newer. I have owned, repaired and sold
> several
> > of them along with owning several R-1051 receivers and I have a strange
> > Harris URC-94 that I love but in years of dealing with this stuff have
> > never owned and only saw maybe one or two URC-35 (RT-618) sets.
> >
> > Ray F/KA3EKH
> >
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: r-1051-bounces at mailman.qth.net <r-1051-bounces at mailman.qth.net> On
> > Behalf Of Nick England
> > Sent: Thursday, December 12, 2019 2:37 PM
> > To: R-1051 Discussion Group <r-1051 at mailman.qth.net>
> > Subject: Re: [R-1051] Six pack attack
> >
> > FWIW, I have started a chart of all the module part numbers towards the
> > bottom of a page at http://www.navy-radio.com/rcvrs/r1051.htm
> >
> > I have numbers for several R-1051 models and a couple of RT-618 models. I
> > need to dig around for T-827 info.
> > Please let me know of additions, corrections, etc.
> >
> > Nick England K4NYW
> > www.navy-radio.com
> >
> >
> > On Thu, Dec 12, 2019 at 12:23 PM John P. Caldwell <jcaldwell at rbcos.com>
> > wrote:
> >
> > > Ray,
> > >
> > > The six pack assembly is "sort of" interchangeable with the T-827,
> > > depending on the synthesizer module.  Six packs are NOT
> > > interchangeable between the
> > > 1051 and 1051B/C.  The 1051 six pack has a 500 CPS synth module, the
> > > 1051B and later uses a 100 CPS synth module so they can't be
> > > substituted.  I believe the same applies with the T-827
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > John Caldwell
> > >
> > > W8SDA (ex WD8INC)
> > >
> > >
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