[QSL-Managers] Ending buro replies..what do you guys think.

Bob Schenck, N2OO n2oo at comcast.net
Tue Jun 8 18:55:14 EDT 2004


Unfortunately, as Steve says, there is no easy answer.

What I think is most important for us as QSL Managers to realize is that we
should stop thinking so hard.
If someone sends a paper QSL, then we should answer it.
As for LoTW, I am against it because I am old fashioned. I LIKE QSL cards. I
LIKE collecting them. LoTW robs me of that to an extent. It's NOT all about
the awards. I know MANY folks who JUST collect the cards. Maybe they submit
ONLY for basic mixed DXCC.
Do I get multiple requests for QSLs? Sure I do. Do I get excited about it?
Nope. Not at all. LoTW CAN AND SHOULD exist in harmony with paper QSLing.

As soon as the word "cost" is a concern to me, then I know it is time to
"curtail". That is not why I am a QSL Manager.

Question!!
What happens to the guy who sends for a QSL "card" to someone who just
"dumps" his logs to LoTW and "ignores" paper QSL requests????? Would this be
"right"??? What happens if this GUY sending for a paper QSL card does NOT
choose to use LoTW...  SOL, right?
LoTW was put in place with "GREAT FANFARE" explaining that it would NOT
replace paper QSL cards.... I wonder. That would be a very sad day indeed.




73!
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Bob Schenck, N2OO/9M6OO
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-----Original Message-----
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[mailto:qsl-managers-bounces at mailman.qth.net]On Behalf Of KU9C
Sent: Monday, June 07, 2004 11:25 AM
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Subject: Re: [QSL-Managers] Ending buro replies..what do you guys think.


This is of a great interest to me.....and while I agree with Jim on the fact
that some awards need QSL cards, it seems we have a situation where,
depending on what award you need, you need to QSL, LOTW QSL, EQSL (uuuuugh),
etc. etc.  Then, on top of that, you have the folks, that QSL direct, and
then bureau QSL, and then the folks that bureau QSL every QSO they make (and
sometimes in triplicate!)

I'd personally like to see if we could get to a point where the major awards
could use a SINGLE database (perhaps LOTW is the best place)...and then,
say, if you are applying to a CQ or award from wherever, there could be a
small charge to admin. the log search.  I think the ARRL is talking about
charging a small amount per DXCC credit .... a similar thing could happen
for WAZ, etc.

Now, I suspect there are a ton of politics, etc, involved...but, if we could
get there, then Don's idea makes sense.

In the short term, perhaps there is a way to differentiate.....DXpeditions
may have to QSL for some time, but what about Contest stations...where the
logs are often given to the ARRL/CQ anyway, and could be loaded into LOTW.
I find that the vast majority of duplicate QSL cards, and requests from
people that QSL EVERYTHING....come from these logs...not the RARE dx that I
handle.  Thus, perhaps an alternative is to QSL the DXpeditions via the
bureau, and let LOTW be the way to get CONTEST qsls....or go direct.

There is no easy answer...but when you get bureau cards 30 pounds at a time,
and realize that over 50% are dupes of some sort......it's getting very
tiring!

73


---------- Original Message ----------------------------------
From: "Jim Spears" <n1nk at cox.net>
Reply-To: QSL-Managers discussion <qsl-managers at mailman.qth.net>
Date:  Fri, 28 May 2004 06:36:58 -0400

>bad idea.  there are a whole lot more awards out there than dxcc.  these
>require paper qsls at this time.
>as I tell my wife when she has a loser, "unthink that idea you just thought
>up"
>
>jim
>N1NK
>----- Original Message -----
>From: "Don Greenbaum" <don at aurumtel.com>
>To: <qsl-managers at mailman.qth.net>
>Sent: Saturday, May 22, 2004 15:31 PM
>Subject: [QSL-Managers] Ending buro replies..what do you guys think.
>
>
>> I just finished packing over 2,000 buro QSLs for N1DG, A61X, A61AO, A61AQ
>and A61AF.
>>
>> Just for giggles I also did a random check of LOTW (I have the first 4 on
>LOTW).  A surprising number of QSL matches show up for which I just sent
>cards.
>>
>> I am tempted to announce that effective immediately I will no longer
>answer buro QSL cards and refer those wanting a confirm to either do LOTW
or
>direct since the excuse that buro's are cheaper is no longer valid.
>>
>> What do you guys think.
>>
>> Don
>> N1DG
>>
>> -----------------------------------------------------
>> N1DG--Licensed since 1962
>> EX-WB2DND, A61AD (GUEST OP, QSL MGR), A52DG, /KH9, /BV, /VS6, /4X, /9V
>> Pilot:  VK9ML, D68C, VK0IR, K8XP/KH9, 9M0C, ZK1XXP, ZL9CI
>> Webmaster:  K5K, A52A, VK0IR, 9M0C, ZK1XXP, WB2DND/KH9, BQ9P, ZL9CI
>> QSL Manager:  A61AD, A61AO, A61X, A61AQ, KH7Z
>> Member:  FOC, ARRL, DDXA, YCCC
>> DON GREENBAUM
>> DUXBURY, MA, USA
>> AIM:  aurumtel
>>
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