[QCWA Hotlist] Changes taking place in QCWA
Ken Simpson, W8EK
ExecAdmin at qcwa.org
Sun Nov 18 18:18:50 EST 2012
Hi Jim,
It can be done on line at
http://qcwa.org/join-renew.php
If snail mail, to
8400 NW 115th Avenue
Ocala, FL 34482-1098
Thanks, 73,
Ken, W8EK
Ken Simpson, W8EK
QCWA Director and Executive Administrator
E-Mail to ExecAdmin at qcwa.org
QCWA Phone (352) 425-1097
Jim Oathout wrote, On 11/18/2012 6:15 PM:
> Pseudo-on-topic...
> I was just asked by a prospective new member where to send membership
> applications, and with all the changes I wasn't sure. I thought it best to
> ask here.
>
> Thanks!
> Jim Oathout - WB0KZB
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: qcwahotlist-bounces at mailman.qth.net
> [mailto:qcwahotlist-bounces at mailman.qth.net] On Behalf Of Bob Roske
> Sent: Sunday, November 18, 2012 5:10 PM
> To: qcwahotlist at mailman.qth.net
> Subject: Re: [QCWA Hotlist] Changes taking place in QCWA
>
> HQ never included the latest issues for give away in the hamfest packages.
>
> Bob, N0UF
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "John Peters"<petersj007 at hawaii.rr.com>
> To: "Calvin Jackson"<caljack at fairpoint.net>; "Howard Honig"
> <howard at honeysw.com>; "Bob Roske"<broske at hutchtel.net>
> Cc:<qcwahotlist at mailman.qth.net>
> Sent: Sunday, November 18, 2012 2:29 PM
> Subject: Re: [QCWA Hotlist] Changes taking place in QCWA
>
>
>> Why would anyone care? We give the Journal to non members. Good way to
>> get them interested in joining. Just like giving away QST after you read
>> it.
>>
>> John K1ER
>> ----- Original Message -----
>> From: "Calvin Jackson"<caljack at fairpoint.net>
>> To: "Howard Honig"<howard at honeysw.com>; "Bob Roske"<broske at hutchtel.net>
>> Cc:<qcwahotlist at mailman.qth.net>
>> Sent: Sunday, November 18, 2012 8:35 AM
>> Subject: Re: [QCWA Hotlist] Changes taking place in QCWA
>>
>>
>> I normally stay out of these discussions also. But I have a question
>> concerning Howard's idea 0f putting an active llnk in the Reflector email
>> to
>> access the Journal. My question is, Could that active link be easily sent
>> to a non-dues paying recipient, making it easy for him to access the
>> journal
>> without having to pay dues? Or is that a valid concern? Or perhaps I
>> don't
>> understand the system.
>> Calvin Jackson AC5HM
>> Vice President
>> Chapter #63
>> caljack at fairpoint.net
>>
>>
>> ----- Original Message -----
>> From: "Howard Honig"<howard at honeysw.com>
>> To: "Bob Roske"<broske at hutchtel.net>
>> Cc:<qcwahotlist at mailman.qth.net>
>> Sent: Sunday, November 18, 2012 12:12 PM
>> Subject: Re: [QCWA Hotlist] Changes taking place in QCWA
>>
>>
>> I normally stay out of these discussion but I have an idea that won't save
>> money but will
>> save some time. It would be great if in addition to having the journal
>> available in the
>> Member's Only section that an active link to the journal be included in
>> the
>> email sent to
>> those subscribed to this reflector to notify us that the journal is ready.
>> (An active link is
>> one the someone can click on to open browsers or d/l files). That
>> would save a lot of time so we don't have to log into the Member's Only
>> section
>> and hunt for the journal link entry. We, the chapter secretaries, can
>> then forward the email to the members of our chapter who have email and/or
>> print
>> out a copy as necessary for those who do not (have email) with two clicks
>> of
>> the mouse button.
>>
>> Just a thought.
>>
>> 73 -
>>
>> Howard, WB7OK
>> Chapter 108
>> Secr/Treas
>> http://www.beaverstateqcwa.org
>>
>>
>> On 11/17/2012 8:01 PM, Bob Roske wrote:
>>> You do not need to include the email id of anyone that is subscribed to
>>> the
>>> reflector and the email if of the reflector.
>>>
>>> The PDF of the Journal will be on the Members Only section of the
>>> website,
>>> just as they are now.
>>>
>>> 73,
>>> Bob Roske, NØUF
>>> Webmaster QCWA
>>>
>>> ----- Original Message -----
>>> From: "John Peters"<petersj007 at hawaii.rr.com>
>>> To: "Ken Simpson, W8EK"<ExecAdmin at qcwa.org>;<svetanoff at earthlink.net>
>>> Cc:<qcwahotlist at mailman.qth.net>
>>> Sent: Saturday, November 17, 2012 9:43 PM
>>> Subject: Re: [QCWA Hotlist] Changes taking place in QCWA
>>>
>>>
>>>> I think it is too late to worry about what else might have been done.
>>>> I
>>>> think we need to deal with a PDF version sent with email and let each
>>>> chapter figure out the best way to distribute what is left of the
>>>> magazine.
>>>> In worst case, print one and let the members read it at a meeting.
>>>> Or print enough within each chapter for interested members.
>>>>
>>>> John K1ER
>>>> Honolulu Ch
>>>>
>>>> ----- Original Message -----
>>>> From: "Ken Simpson, W8EK"<ExecAdmin at qcwa.org>
>>>> To:<svetanoff at earthlink.net>
>>>> Cc:<qcwahotlist at mailman.qth.net>
>>>> Sent: Saturday, November 17, 2012 4:47 PM
>>>> Subject: Re: [QCWA Hotlist] Changes taking place in QCWA
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>> Hi Dale,
>>>>>
>>>>> I will conclude this thread with one more comment.
>>>>>
>>>>> You say "If QCWA is, in fact, so close to bankruptcy, and even the
>>>>> modest cost for a 99% reduction in mailings is not affordable, then I
>>>>> contend that a call for help with that expense should have gone out to
>>>>> the chapters prior to making the "all or nothing" decision."
>>>>>
>>>>> I have been doing just as you say, suggesting that chapters make
>>>>> donations to the operating fund, for over two years. Some chapters
>>>>> did, but most did not. We can ask, but we can not force the chapters
>>>>> to help. It is up to them.
>>>>>
>>>>> Producing a print Journal for 50 people is simply not cost effective.
>>>>> I doubt we could even find a printer who would print that few. It
>>>>> needs to be more like 1000 copies for printers to be interested, and
>>>>> producing that 1000 would cost us about half of what the present 5000
>>>>> copies costs. Very simply, we can not afford it.
>>>>>
>>>>> Thanks, 73,
>>>>>
>>>>> Ken, W8EK
>>>>>
>>>>> Ken Simpson, W8EK
>>>>> QCWA Director and Executive Administrator
>>>>> E-Mail to ExecAdmin at qcwa.org
>>>>> QCWA Phone (352) 425-1097
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> Dale Svetanoff wrote, On 11/17/2012 9:03 PM:
>>>>>> Ken,
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Thank you for your patient and thoughtful replies. I'll conclude my
>>>>>> thoughts and comments by saying that yes, I do get the picture as
>>>>>> presented
>>>>>> by you and President Oelke. What I don't get is why, if there are
>>>>>> "only"
>>>>>> about 1% (give or take) of the overall membership who do not have
>>>>>> e-mail
>>>>>> or
>>>>>> computer access, printed copies of the "Journal" (and other
>>>>>> appropriate
>>>>>> documents) could not be prepared and supplied by QCWA HQ. It seems to
>>>>>> me
>>>>>> that this would be a very small fraction of the present number of
>>>>>> printed
>>>>>> copies, at much less cost.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> If QCWA is, in fact, so close to bankruptcy, and even the modest cost
>>>>>> for
>>>>>> a
>>>>>> 99% reduction in mailings is not affordable, then I contend that a
>>>>>> call
>>>>>> for
>>>>>> help with that expense should have gone out to the chapters prior to
>>>>>> making
>>>>>> the "all or nothing" decision. My concerns over lack of a uniform
>>>>>> solution
>>>>>> for all chapters with members not having e-mail is partly driven by
>>>>>> guessing (rightly or wrongly) that some chapters are better off
>>>>>> financially
>>>>>> than are others. The members of the "weaker" chapters are likely to
>>>>>> see
>>>>>> their supply of hard copy dwindle over a rather short period of time.
>>>>>> Of
>>>>>> course, with amateur radio being a fraternity of wonderful people that
>>>>>> do
>>>>>> help one another a lot, I am glad to learn that many donors are
>>>>>> stepping
>>>>>> up
>>>>>> to help with the associated issues.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> I do truly appreciate the efforts that the QCWA officers and BoD are
>>>>>> making
>>>>>> to salvage a great organization. I just happen to think that some
>>>>>> approach
>>>>>> could have or should have been taken that did not penalize members,
>>>>>> many
>>>>>> of
>>>>>> them being our oldest and/or incapacitated in some way, just because
>>>>>> they
>>>>>> lack computer and e-mail access. Thank you for your time and
>>>>>> consideration.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Oh, TNX for mentioning use of .PDF files in QCWA. I agree, the way to
>>>>>> go.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> 73,
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Dale Svetanoff, WA9ENA
>>>>>> VP, Ch 123, and Former Director Ch 2
>>>>>> Member #23985
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> [Original Message]
>>>>>>> From: Ken Simpson, W8EK<ExecAdmin at qcwa.org>
>>>>>>> To:<svetanoff at earthlink.net>
>>>>>>> Cc: W8EK Ken Simpson<W8EK at flham.net>;<qcwahotlist at mailman.qth.net>
>>>>>>> Date: 11/17/2012 4:47:53
>>>>>>> Subject: Re: [QCWA Hotlist] Changes taking place in QCWA
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Hi Dale,
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Thanks for your comments.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Apparently neither Ken Oelke nor myself have been able to get the
>>>>>>> important point across. That is that the paper Journal would cease
>>>>>>> to
>>>>>>> exist regardless of what we did. It would either stop because the
>>>>>>> the
>>>>>>> organization went bankrupt and had to be shut down, or it would
>>>>>>> stop
>>>>>>> but we would continue with 12 digital issues as we have. Again, I
>>>>>>> ask
>>>>>>> you -- which would you prefer?
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Others have the same opinion of the CQ publications special format
>>>>>>> as
>>>>>>> you do. We plan to use pdf, which should be much better.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> I am getting dozens of private e-mails from people offering to
>>>>>>> help.
>>>>>>> Most chapters will make certain their members will get the Journal.
>>>>>>> Many have 100% of their members with e-mail, so there is no
>>>>>>> problem.
>>>>>>> Others have volunteered to print copies and mail to members who do
>>>>>>> not
>>>>>>> belong to a chapter. The QCWA members have stepped up to help, as
>>>>>>> we
>>>>>>> knew they would.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> To sum up, yes, we did think about things, and basically, all of
>>>>>>> this
>>>>>>> is happening just as we expected it would.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Thanks for your concerns.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> 73,
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Ken, W8EK
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Ken Simpson, W8EK
>>>>>>> QCWA Director and Executive Administrator
>>>>>>> E-Mail to ExecAdmin at qcwa.org
>>>>>>> QCWA Phone (352) 425-1097
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
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