[Qcwa] "Hidden" HF antenna

[Norm Gertz]

Brings back lots of memories.......when we had the place in Miami I had to
resort to feeding the downspout that ran by the sliding glass doors.......it
was about 25' and connected to a plastic rain gutter so essentially it was a
vertical....I was able to use it on 80 - 10 with a tuner and had great
results.

73   Norm    K1AA

----- Original Message -----
From: "John Paul Keon" <jpkeon@nc.rr.com>
To: <qcwa@mailman.qth.net>
Sent: Saturday, February 16, 2002 12:27 PM
Subject: Re: [Qcwa] "Hidden" HF antenna


> I lived in Hickory, NC for a while, in an apartment, and
> used the gutter on the outside of the house with a tuner,
> and it was the torroidal on the TS-440 Kenwood (internal)
> and it made some contacts.  I worked some DX too.
> I also used a guardrail on another apartment on the ledge and
> it worked for a while, and then I got the bright idea of using
> a slinky strung out and extended as long as I could get it, around
> in the attic, from corner to corner, and then down the sides in the shape
of
> a Z i guess you would say.  It worked on 75 too.
> Used it for a year and then moved, and strung up a Windom.
> I presently live in a new house (5 years) and cannot have an antenna
> here, but I have a Windom (80 meter-10Mtr)
> up at 28 feet in the trees in the back, hidden.  I painted the center
> insulator
> black/green and the line isolator too, and you can't see it and the
> neighbors don't know it is there (yet!!!)
> I work QRO and QRP with it.  I get on the MARS nets with it almost
> everyday QRO (100 watts) and QRP and QRP/p for the rest of the time.
> So I know it works.  I also now use an old DENTRON tuner with it and
> it is flat on all the places I work.
> Hope this helps.
> JohnPaul/AB4PP Raleigh, NC
> John Paul, Raleigh, NC
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: <FrankWeiss@aol.com>
> To: <qcwa@mailman.qth.net>
> Sent: Saturday, February 16, 2002 11:51 AM
> Subject: Re: [Qcwa] "Hidden" HF antenna
>
>
> >
> >  Me too!  has anyone tried the MFJ-1621?
> >
> >   http://www.amcominc.com/productdetail.cfm?Prod_ID=640
> >
> > Thanks and 73,
> >
> > Frank  K6FCW
> >
> > ==
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > >
> > > Last month I passed my General and want to get on HF.  I'm in the
usual
> > > predicament these days, living in an antenna restricted community so I
> need
> > > to have a very low profile or hidden antenna.  I do have a roller
> inductor
> > > antenna tuner so I'm thinking of a couple of options.
> > >
> > > Option 1 is an attic mounted dipole but in order to get on 75 meters I
> will
> > > probably have to zig-zag or bend the wire along the trusses to fit it
> all
> > > in.  Total attic length is approx 69'.  I thought of taking the
> "leftover"
> > > ends and putting them through the gable ends of the attic and bend
them
> > > toward the ground.  My problems/questions here are two-fold.  First
the
> > > main
> > > AC duct runs down the middle of the attic.  It's the fiberglass box
type
> > > duct, not the metal cylinder. It does have the aluminum foil type wrap
> on
> > > the outside.  I don't know what affect it'll have on the wire antenna
> > > except
> > > maybe act as a reflector?  The second problem is how to fasten the
wire
> to
> > > the trusses.  I feel I need some type of standoff insulator and the
only
> > > ones I know of are the types used to stand off tv twin-lead.  Also, if
I
> > > were to go through the gable ends, what type of insulating grommet
> should I
> > > use.  Max power expected would be 100 watts.
> > >
> > > Option 2 is a loop wire run just under the eves of the house.  Same
> issue
> > > about insulators and how to fasten the wire up.  Another consideration
> in
> > > my
> > > mind is height above ground and the fact there's an aluminum gutter
> running
> > > across the front of the house.
> > >
> > > There are no trees available that I could hide a vertical or long wire
> in.
> > >
> > > I would like to work 10-80 meters at this time.
> > >
> > > Any suggestions?
> > >
> > > Keith, KF4BXT
> >
> >
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