[PVRCNC] [PVRC] Arrl up to their same old digital aggression tricks!

Mon Sep 17 11:47:24 EDT 2018

Qrm'ing offending Pactor stations they don't provide control operators, don't monitor every message, and operate out of the ACDS bands, is not the answer. We should not QRM other stations. 

Electing new directors, who are aware and against the major digital aggression being pursued and backed by the League, and it's elected/appointed officers and hired attorneys, is our best (and probably only) way to nip this 20 year crusade in the bud.

Also, demanding that our hobby only support open, interceptable transmissions that are not for business use or internet bypass use, and  watching the FCC and Winlink activities carefully, as I and others do,  and commenting publicly with facts and with a very loud voice, with widespread involvement from our broad ham community, is the only way to make the FCC certain that we still care about the existing FCC Part 97 rules for our hobby. 

The vocal outcry by thousands who took the time to learn about this wideband digital aggression issue, and who wrote to the FCC on RM 11-306, RM-11708, NPRM 16-239 and 17-344, is why this unlimited wideband encrypted data has not been allowed yet. But ARRL will not give up unless new directors are elected and new lawyers are hired. 

And it's why you see ARRL's Imlay quoted as discussing  "16-239 without prejudice" in his public comments at the ARRL website--the ARRL and its small and insular band of "policy makers" are relentless at trying to overcome the broad will of the membership. They seem willing to stop at no means to push unlimited wideband encrypted data into HF, and this recent arrl news release serves as yet another example. 

I expect you will see ARRL lobby the FCC after a few weeks with a public filing or a private ex parte meeting at the Commission, claiming how ham radio's pactor 4 and Winlink saved the day and saved countless lives, and this will be ARRL's rallying cry to again urge the FCC to pass NPRM 16-239 once and for all, so that the unintelligible Pactor 4 and wider band Stanag HF commercial modems can be used carte Blanche all over HF, and why all technicians should immediately be given wideband data HF privileges.

Watch and see- this is their standard mode of operation. 

To ignore these facts is at the peril of the future of our hobby, and your personal investment in contest gear, antennas, and other narrowband HF ham gear. 

I hope you all can become knowledgeable, spread the word,  and be ready to write to the FCC and to ARRL officials, and to vote out all incumbent ARRL directors who continually ignore the will of the vast majority of the amateur population (as seen in RM-11306, RM-11708, NPRM Docket 16-239, 17-344).

73 ted N9NB 

Sent from smartphone, please excuse typos

> On Sep 17, 2018, at 11:05 AM, <w4aaw at aol.com> <w4aaw at aol.com> wrote:
> 
> Can anyone tell me the operating frequencies for this stuff.  If they have the right to pile onto a busy frequency with impunity, I would like to have the same right.  I am looking for some new frequencies on which to test my 1.5 kW amplifiers into a real (not dummy) load.
> 
> 73,
> Mike
> W4AAW
> 
> 
> 
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Barry <k3ndm at comcast.net>
> To: Jack Cochran <nokesradio at gmail.com>; Ted <tsrwvcomm at aol.com>
> Cc: PVRC <PVRC at mailman.qth.net>; ctdxcc <ctdxcc at lists.kkn.net>; PVRCNC <PVRCNC at mailman.qth.net>
> Sent: Mon, Sep 17, 2018 10:55 am
> Subject: Re: [PVRC] Arrl up to their same old digital aggression tricks!
> 
> Jack,
>      The Winlink network is worldwide. It does make a good service for text based mail. Additionally, the Winlink network is used for record traffic by the various emergency nets that hams participate in. It does work well and is robust. It is not a slow speed Inet service nor meant to be, just text mail.
> 
>      The real digital issue that is driving the ARRL is HFALE. There is a small group of hams that don't feel they should be bandwidth limited such that data rates stay as they are. They have been lobbying everywhere to greatly increase the rates. They would like to run the rates that the HF Industries Association can run with their commercial gear. That funny turkey gobble sound you hear is one of the ALE stations hailing.
> 
>      In a small nutshell, that's the story.
> 
> 73,
> Barry
> K3NDM
> 
> 
> ------ Original Message ------
> From: "Jack Cochran" <nokesradio at gmail.com>
> To: "Ted" <tsrwvcomm at aol.com>
> Cc: "PVRC" <PVRC at mailman.qth.net>; ctdxcc at lists.kkn.net; PVRCNC at mailman.qth.net
> Sent: 9/17/2018 9:51:45 AM
> Subject: Re: [PVRC] Arrl up to their same old digital aggression tricks!
> 
>> Question
>> How is winlink providing internet to boaters? It is a minimal email service
>> 
>> Jack wc4j
>> 
>> On Mon, 17 Sep 2018 09:16 Ted via PVRC, <pvrc at mailman.qth.net> wrote:
>> I'm sorry to report that the ARRL wideband data aggression, and internet commerce ambitions, are on full display once again in front of the FCC and the world in the Florence hurricane.
>> 
>> Here they are, publicly pushing for, receiving, and then lauding the FCC's Pactor 4 waiver for hurricane relief---again.
>>  
>> This is just like in the Puerto Rico disaster in 2017, where they pushed for a Pactor 4 waiver, but then never once used Pactor 4 after getting such a FCC waiver, despite trying to amass a "force of 50" and after shipping radios for a failed publicity stunt.
>> 
>> The League is simply relentless, and disingenuous, about what they want for the future of amateur radio. 
>> 
>> Their actions, here again, broadcast their aspirations for NPRM wt16-239 from the FCC- a rule change that would allow unlimited bandwidth, wideband email with guaranteed privacy and no interference protections for narrowband operations in all sections of our HF bands. The ARRL and others have moved in and cajoled ITU region 2 to set up Winlink stations in Central America for the first time last month.
>> 
>> This is all part of a not-so-subtle move to obscure HF ham transmissions and enable commerce on our HF bands for use by Winlink as a big, no-cost ionospheric access point in the sky, for boaters to use free internet when sailing around the globe.
>> 
>> Sadly, n6aa Dick Norton, an ARRL director, conveyed to me at Dayton 2018 that he sees boaters using HF for internet email to order occasional boat parts or supplies as a perfectly fine use for ham radio, and he has no concerns whatsoever of Pactor 4 and Winlink being used in HF, because the bands are empty, and Winlink leader Steve Waterman told him there is no problems or concerns!
>> 
>> Shocking and telling to me is that, instead of looking at the thousands of public comments against RM-11708 and FCC's NPRM Wt16-239 that I told him about, N6AA instead doubled down on his position by telling me by email that he polled thousands of hams in Los Angels, and they all believe it's perfectly ok to order a pizza over 2m phone patch- I'm happy to share these emails for public consumption.
>>> http://www.arrl.org/news/fcc-grants-arrl-temporary-waiver-request-to-permit-pactor-4-use-in-hurricane-relief
>>> Very very telling, and sad to me, to see ARRL's attorney Imlay leading this activity, pounding away before the FCC (he has been the lone ARRL lawyer for many, many decades, isn't licensed in CT, and seems to me to operate alone. I'm told his father- in-law was the ARRL lawyer for decades before him - wow- a single family dynasty representing the league's legal activities for 60+ years!).
>>> "ARRL’s request proposed limiting the use of PACTOR 4 to radio amateurs in the Continental US who are directly involved with the hurricane relief efforts involving the US mainland. “This request is without prejudice to the resolution of Docket 16-239 [the so-called “symbol rate” proceeding], which is presently pending and addresses the rule section discussed herein,” Imlay added"
>>> Submitted by K4CJX  WDT
>> 
>>> One can't help wonder -- why Pactor 3 couldn't suffice.
>> 
>>> Well, no need to wonder-- we all know why!
>> 
>> 
>>> The ARRL and Winlink/boating community wants to turn the HF spectrum into their free internet access point as they push the  FCC NPRM at every turn, so that all wideband unlimited BW encrypted email can commence.
>> 
>> At the same time, while Winlink has control operator violations and lack of ability to monitor over-the-air transmissions,  the ARRL has voiced its concerns about the super narrow band wspr-x HF transmissions! What horse are they backing!?
>> 
>> Please let your voices be heard in the director elections this year!
>> 
>> New directors in *every* section are vitally needed, NOW, to add transparency and to investigate the current legal representation "dynasty" of the League. 
>> 
>> 73 ted N9NB
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