Last night I imported the 3830 stats to excel and sorted by club. Well, we are doing well - but NCCC is doing better. According to 3830 postings as of last night: NCCC: 6,018,132 PVRC: 5,443,084 Sure hope we have some BIG GUNS that don't bother with 3830 !!! Hope to hear / work you next weekend. 73, Bruce - N1LN