[Pro2006] What to do!
Wessuk at aol.com
Wessuk at aol.com
Thu Jun 17 20:06:53 EDT 2004
HI Bob and thanks for your interesting input. I was one of those guys that
even though being careful i still managed to crack the LCD display on 2006
which absolutely gutted me. Bob would you know of any one that may have an LCD
display that would suit my 2006, or maybe a broken scanner that i could use the
LCD panel from? I have tried radio shack but they will not ship to me here
in England UK. Any help or advise would be warmly appreciated as i so much
want to revive my beloved 2006.
Regards to all at QTH
Wess....England UK
In a message dated 17/06/2004 14:22:25 GMT Daylight Time,
bwhiston at baldwinfarm.org writes:
At 21:32 15-06-04, you wrote:
>Hello Laird and other fans of these great Radio Shack scanners,
>
>1. I have a couple of Pro-2004s that don't work, and display some weird
>symptoms. When he was alive, Bill Cheek emailed me that many of the
>problems were related to bad soldering on the motherboard. I got the
>scanners used, and it looks like someone has tried some repair or
>modification of the radios.
OK... The PRO-2004s suffered from a bit more than *just* `poor'
solder jobs. They also have poor through plated holes on the assorted
circuit boards. (I've got a pair of them myself and have `fought with'
them quite a bit over the years. I also finally just through in the towel
a couple years ago and basically let both of them `die' and went and dug
out a pair of 2006s I had stashed away. I figured that until I could
actually get a *real* `repair bench' back up and running, having children
and needing that `spare bedroom' that was originally one's `lab' is *where*
my `lab' went, I could `get by' for a while. {WAN GRIN!}) Anyway... What
you will need to be able to do is first get youself both a good schematic
*and* board layouts. Next... You will have to *CAREFULLY* go through
*each* board, starting with the power supply section then proceding to the
audio section, and then the digital section, and finally the RF section,
*CAREFULLY* wiggling all the wires followed by all the `wired' components
noting the results. Put a marker on those points where you find a
problem. After you've got a board full of markers the next thing will be
to carefully touch-up the solder joints on those points taking care to keep
from overheating whatever it is you are resoldering. This phase will
probably entail several passes through before one can be halfway assured
they have gotten all those bad spots. Be especially careful about getting
*both* sides of each connection! (Remember I mentioned problems with
through plated holes!)
OK... Now that you've pretty much taken care of *most* of the
`problems' it is time to go after the next set, `sour traces'. For these
this is where having access to *both* a schematic and board layouts come in
handy. The main places *I* found `sour traces' were between
interconnection `cables' and components. IE: A ribbon cable is attached to
the board in one place but it doesn't go directly to the components it
shows on the schematic and instead goes to a set of `pads' that then have
traces that *do* go to the components. (One of my 2004s actually has about
1 & 1/2 dozen jumper wires with `micro-clips' running from either cable to
component or bypassing the cable and going directly from component on one
board to component on another board! Amazingly enough I actually managed
to get quite a few years of use out of it this way and the only reason it
was `retired' along with it's `mate' was that I was going to use it as an
example to fix the `mate'. [Just as soon as I could get a `bench' back up.
{WAN GRIN!}]) Anyway... I figure that *if* one *takes their time* and
*carefully* goes through with just the resoldering and installing jumpers
as needed one can get a 2004 pretty much back up and running in a few
weeks. (I say `few weeks' because, as I keep emphasizing, *careful* is the
`trick'! You *have* to check out *everything* and not just stop when it
first flickers back to life because you've gotten the ones that have
already `gone' and not the ones getting ready to go.)
After that you can then address the display backlight problem. In
both of mine I didn't replace the backlights with new EL panels even though
I could have done so at the time. Bill and I had discussed the basic
problems of the EL panels and it was decided that I would try to see if
there might be a way to use LEDs instead. I managed to locate some `milk
white' plastic that was thin enough to fit where the EL panel was mounted,
trimmed a couple pieces to fit with some extra sticking out to provide a
place to mount some LEDs, then I carefully *inset* the LEDs into the
plastic so that the majority of the light from the LEDs would be difused
through the plastic. (One *has* to be *very* careful about getting the
original panel out from behind the readout *and* also careful that the
plastic is thin enough to fit back behind because those readouts are
irreplaceable and one doesn't want to crack them or in any other way damage
it!) My first attempt didn't quite fully illuminate the whole display and
I had to eventually carefully glue some thin foil to the backside to
reflect back the light that was escaping out the backside. {GRIN!} (I
also tried several different colours of LEDs eventually settling on yellow
ones because they were the brightest I could find at the time that were
also small enough. Today I suppose that one could pretty much choose most
any colour since they have made some pretty serious advances in LED
`tech-no-golly' and one can get some very small and bright ones in just
about every colour.) The other `route' that one can also take now is
replacing the EL panel with another one since EL panel `tech-no-golly'
these days has also made some decent advances and one can get `experimenter
kits' that one can pretty much cut out whatever size one may need. Either
way, just like going through the boards and cables, the operative `word' is
*still* *carefully*. As much as you'd like to get that `old friend' back
up and running as quickly as possible it isn't something to rush.
Having said all that I've said I think that if one just takes
one's time and doesn't rush most anyone can repair and get running their
2004 *unless* one actually is one of those very few that are absolute
`ditzes' when it comes to basic electronics and soldering. (If one *is*
worried about their soldering abilities there actually are still some DIY
kits out there that one can build first to get some soldering experience
`under their belts' before attacking something like a 2004! They, like the
2004, call for something around a 25 or so watt soldering iron with a
fairly `small' / `fine' tip along with being patient and not
rushing.) Personally I would suggest that one acquire a `soldering
station' that has the ability to use assorted different sized tips and use
the smallest tip possible to do the job. In my case I am used to using an
UNGAR adjustable temp soldering station but since it's not something that
one can just go out and buy any old place I'd recommend that one try and
find something along the lines of a WELLER WLC100 soldering station or
WES51 `Electronic' soldering station and adjusting either one such that the
tip you've selected will easily melt the solder without spattering and
burning. (These `stations' can effectively give one an iron that can be as
`light' as 10 watts and as `heavy' as approximately 50 watts depending upon
both the adjustment and `job' without having to have a whole `collection'
of irons! All one has to do is just pick a tip and and then adjust for
proper solder melting.) As for solder... Again, *personally*, I use ERSIN
`Multicore' solder but, any *quality* .040" dia. *rosin* core solder should
work. (It shouldn't take all that much, just a `smiddgen', solder to fix
most of the joint problems and *maybe* a tiny bit more for some of the
`heavier' joints.)
>2. I have some Pro-2006s that have the dim display problem, and need to
>have the EL panel replaced. That is a lot of expense and work to do. I
>don't have the time to attempt this repair myself. I was wondering if
>there is a way to use a couple of LEDs to light the display.
The 2006s shouldn't be any harder to fix than the 2004s and
actually could be the first ones you *might* want to `attack'. All you
have to do is remember that operative word *carefully* when you go in to
`diddle' with that backlight. {GRIN!} I'd sure hate to hear that you've
cracked the readout and are now looking for a replacement because you
resorted to `brute force' to free the EL panel from behind the
display! (By now *both* the 2004s and the 2006s `glue' has hardened and
you *will* have to pick it away, slowly, piece by piece.)
I'm *not* trying to scare you! I just want to let you know that
it *can* be done but, you *do* have to exercise some reasonable caution and
*not* try and `hurry' things along. Like Bill used to say... "Most anyone
can do this stuff as long as they realize this *isn't* an old `hotrod' one
is `cobbling together' out under the old shade tree in the backyard using
the `cowboy', if it doesn't go get a bigger hammer, method." {VBSE
GRIN!} I really wish that I had a bench back up so that I could try and
help you by working on mine and talking you through the steps as we got to
them!
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Doleo ergo sum,
Bob Whiston
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