[Pro2006] Parallel port PC Interface and ProgramIT software

Tue, 09 Jul 2002 09:31:54 -0400

OOPPSSSSSS!

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"Len G. Carpenter" wrote:

> Well as I understood it Bill copyrighted the software as he did pay for its creation.  I
> also know that the eputer program that is needed to get the initial programming into the
> 68hc11 was not to be given out freely, it is also copyrighted by Bill and we are the only
> one allowed to pass it out with Pro-Turbo and only if it is asked for.
> I don't believe Cindy is doing any sales for any of the hardware or software, I have had a
> few people wanting Pro-Turbo but were having problems getting the hardware even after
> finally getting a response from Cindy on it I have not heard back form them and that was a
> longgggggggg time ago.
> Last I heard a friend was offered everything from Cindy, he has not heard from her in a
> longg time either.
> Not too sure what we have regged I would have to look it up but we do get a few every year,
> for the time we have into it even if we had charged $300 or $400 for the program we still
> are in the hole and that is paying ourselves $1 an hour, but that's he way the ball rolls in
> a specialized market, but everyone that has the program has a very well behaved program that
> does just what it is supposed to do and then lots more, it doesn't tie your windows system
> up like the DOS version does and is also a hell of allot easier to use, unlike redshift. I
> beta tested it and a friend tried to beta test it, took me a long time to get it to run and
> he never did get it to run, I don't know if you every used it, it had some nice features but
> was very misleading in what some of them did and a very screwed up way of programming the
> channels into the radio, would be great if it was for the opto board but not the CE/HB-232.
> Yes lots of people are missing the joy of building and testing, worst part is it seems that
> many of the hams we are seeing in the groups and stuff have no idea what if they have a
> soldering iron or a high voltage probe in their hand or which end to hold.
>
> Cheers
>
> Len
>
> ted hay wrote:
>
> > your right it doesnt appear to be on any ftp site.  perhaps Cindy Cheek is offering
> > copies for the $10 for habdling and postage yet.  otherwise somebody might be kind enuff
> > to send a copy. I've never seen a request for it in alt.binaires.radio-scanner newsgroup
> > either.  I'm guessing the interest in the hb232 is somewhat limited now.  How many
> > copies of Pro-turbo are licensed and how many a year are ordered?  I'm guessing since
> > the 2006 is getting somewhat older and many of the higher end new radios offering
> > computer control without the hassel of homebrewing that it is being overlooked a lot
> > anymore.
> >
> > Ted
> >
> > "Len G. Carpenter" wrote:
> >
> > > Where can it be found?
> > >
> > > ted hay wrote:
> > >
> > > > You can use the dos program that came with the hb232.  George Stidley
> > > > released it
> > > > into the public domain, actually very good very stable few bugs (only
> > > > about 2 have
> > > > been found).  You can use a old PC, 286 or better.  Pro -Turbo will cost
> > > > you as much
> > > > as the interface.
> > > >
> > > > Ted
> > > >
> > > > "Len G. Carpenter" wrote:
> > > >
> > > > > Must be some network traffic holding things up because I can't even get into the
> > > > > site at http://www3.sympatico.ca/len.c/  but all the info you need can be found
> > > > > there.
> > > > >
> > > > > Redshift well I can't say to much about it I have tried it and it has its good
> > > > > points, would be a great program for the opto board but my feelings are that it
> > > > > just doesn't work well with the CE/HB-232.
> > > > >
> > > > > Also with the Pro-Turbo software the eputer program is available with it if
> > > > > needed and if you are building from scratch there are only 2 legal sources for
> > > > > that program, Cindy Cheek or the Pro-Turbo people, without it you can't program
> > > > > the 68HC11.  I don't think redshift ever got past the beta stage, last I read
> > > > > was that the software they used to program it was creating all kinds of issue's
> > > > > so they were going with another language, that was well over 18 months ago.
> > > > >
> > > > > Ed Tissink wrote:
> > > > >
> > > > > > Getting the PCB made hopefylly won't be too difficult as I know a couple of
> > > > > > people in this industry.  It looks like one library in NZ ( way down south,
> > > > > > miles from where I am) has a copy of the book. Fortunately they run a
> > > > > > nation-wide inter-lending system so hopefully I'll get hold of it pretty
> > > > > > soon.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Then the next question beckons. Where do I find more information on the
> > > > > > Pro-Turbo software, cost, distribution method etc.  I've seen numerous links
> > > > > > with,(co-)incidentally, the name Len Carpenter against it.  However they all
> > > > > > point to www3.sympatico.ca/len.c/ and this can't be found.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Is the RedShift software any good, looks a bit pricey but no physical
> > > > > > shipping by the looks which makes life easy for me.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Thanks again, I'm very grateful for all the info and feedback I'm getting
> > > > > > off this list.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Ed
> > > > > >
> > > > > > -----Original Message-----
> > > > > > From: Len G. Carpenter [mailto:[email protected]]
> > > > > > Sent: Wednesday, 3 July 2002 16:11 PM
> > > > > > To: [email protected]
> > > > > > Subject: Re: [Pro2006] Parallel port PC Interface and ProgramIT software
> > > > > >
> > > > > > I think the hardest things will be finding someone that can make the circuit
> > > > > > board for you, it is slightly skewed in the book and the CPU in it is a
> > > > > > motorola
> > > > > > 68hc11 I believe or equivalent.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Ed Tissink wrote:
> > > > > >
> > > > > > > Hmmmm, very tempting.  Do you think I'd be able to source all components
> > > > > > > locally or are they quite specialised?
> > > > > > >
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