[Premium-Rx] Classless MP1000?

Steve Stutman steve at oceanrobots.net
Tue Dec 14 15:20:52 EST 2004


I'd modify the second comment:

If you can't detect it ..... then it's harder to improve.

And who is doing the measuring; and with what? (pardon syntax)

BR,
Steve



Calvinf15 wrote:

> "Class".  Hmmm...  Is that kinda like the "warm" sound one gets from a
> tube amplifier?  Or the "thin" sound that one gets from a CD vs vinyl...
> 
> "If it ain't measurable, then it can't be improved" (can anyone ID the
> original author of this quote?)
> 
> I tried to "smell" my WJs, Racals and Collins this morning.  They
> smelled exactly like my Icoms and Yaesus and Kenwoods, except from the
> one that I bought from that shut-in chain-smoker in Kentucky (but you
> get the picture). 
> 
> However, I could give you some measured figures for 3rd order intercept
> points, for example.  It is interesting to note that my receivers with
> high 2nd and 3rd order intercepts are less susceptible to intermod from
> our kilowatt class FM and TV stations nearby.  And the ones with good
> flat audio response have deeper bass and higher treble than those that
> roll off on both ends.  And the ones with low noise-figure front ends
> seem to pick up weaker stations better than those with poor front ends.
> Alas, the beauty of careful and independent, unbiased, meausurements...
> 
> I'd hate this list to devolve into a snobby wine-tasting contest, but I
> fear that's just a part of the charter.
> 
> Merry Christmas!
> 
> Adam N1GX
> 
> 
> -----Original Message-----
> From: premium-rx-bounces at ml.skirrow.org
> [mailto:premium-rx-bounces at ml.skirrow.org] On Behalf Of
> hlritter at mindspring.com
> Sent: Saturday, December 11, 2004 10:27 PM
> To: premium-rx at ml.skirrow.org
> Subject: [Premium-Rx] Classless MP1000?
> 
> Dang! I have both those rigs, and all this time I really thought the
> 1000MP had class. Solid construction, not a bit tinny, elegant and
> understated styling, fun to use, what's not to like? (In addition to its
> performance, of course!)
> 
> ==howard
> 
> -----Original Message-----
> From: premium-rx-bounces at ml.skirrow.org
> [mailto:premium-rx-bounces at ml.skirrow.org] On Behalf Of Keith Densmore
> Sent: Saturday, December 11, 2004 10:17 AM
> To: premium-rx at ml.skirrow.org
> Subject: Re: [Premium-Rx] consumer vs premium-rx's
> 
> Well, I think all of this discussion boils down to a very simple fact,
> and it is one which no lab instrument can measure, yet we all aspire to
> own--CLASS.
> A lot of prems have it,
> a lot of rice boxes don't.
> And to have class, it doesn't necessarily have to have the best
> performance, nor be the most reliable.
> It is something you know you have in a radio or you know is not there. I
> have a Yaesu 1000mp, which is in most ways a  better radio than my 6790.
> But the Racal has CLASS, the Yaesu does not. You can guess which one I
> use most.
> 
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