[Premium-Rx] Serious Fraud Warning - To all Premium-Rx Member s, Please Read

[Carcia, Frank A. HS]

    I always use the US mail when I deal over epay or anyone else. Whenever
I sell something I ship by the US.
    Why you say.    A postal inspector is like a junk yard dog when there is
mail fraud.....and that is why we pay taxes for that protection. Try to get
that service from anybody else for free. I hope our new friend reads this
to see who he is dealing with.  fc 

-----Original Message-----
From: Herschel McCullough [mailto:w5mc at austin.rr.com]
Sent: Wednesday, February 04, 2004 12:30 AM
To: Greg W. Bailey; premium-rx at ml.skirrow.org
Subject: Re: [Premium-Rx] Serious Fraud Warning - To all Premium-Rx Members,
Please Read


Tell me who it is Padnuh ... I'll just go whup his ass... and I got an even
bigger can of Whup Ass out back in the truck, like trash can size..   mac/mc


----- Original Message ----- 
From: Greg W.  <mailto:gbailey at mail.sdsu.edu> Bailey 
To: premium-rx at ml.skirrow.org <mailto:premium-rx at ml.skirrow.org>  
Sent: Tuesday, February 03, 2004 7:36 PM
Subject: [Premium-Rx] Serious Fraud Warning - To all Premium-Rx Members,
Please Read

Subject: SERIOUS FRAUD WARNING - TO ALL PREMIUM-RX MEMBERS, PLEASE READ 

Over the past three years the Premium-Rx List has attracted an individual
that according to many of our members, has questionable business ethics.

We have experienced numerous encounters with this individual who has, on
three known occasions, joined our membership under a variety of aliases and
email addresses. On each occasion, concerned members have notified us of the
person's true identity, resulting in our unsubscribing the individual. Even
though we think we have eliminated this person for the last time,
individuals like this can continue to monitor the List through the archives.
We could make the archives non-public, but we think that would be a
disservice to the many people out there who have legitimate interests in our
discussions, but who don't qualify for membership. 

Because this is a continuing challenge for us, we thought it was prudent to
WARN you of the situation. Rather than name names (at the risk of falsely
accusing anyone) here is the pattern: A List member posts his desire to buy
a high-end radio. The List member then receives an off-List response by
someone claiming to have the radio. A price is quoted and pictures are often
provided. According to a number of our members who have been involved with
this individual, there is some doubt if the radio is in fact available, and
doubt if anyone sending off the money will ever receive the item as
photographed or the return of their money. 

The person offering the radio usually doesn't have a North American ISP and
the offered radio is usually a non-US high-end make such as Racal,
Telefunken, Siemens or the more unusual European makes.

We have attempted to combat individuals like this in the following two ways:


1. Approximately four months ago we started requiring prospective applicants
to provide us with traceable identification such as an address, telephone
number, call letters, names of other recommending members, etc.  We have
experienced total cooperation from those applying, and are happy to report
that traceability has thus far been 100%.

2. Since only full members can post to the list, we thought it would
increase the safety level of buying and selling equipment IF we opened the
List to FS and WTB items. This was proposed to the membership last
September, and was overwhelming approved.  It was our desire that such
posts, sent to the List by List members, generates a higher probability of
being fair and honest than those being offered by OFF-LIST unknown
individuals. 

Jan and I have deliberated about posting this information. We do not want to
create an atmosphere of distrust or fear in the sharing of information or
exchange of hardware. However, it is obvious that the List represents a high
level of technical talent as well as financial resolve, and as such will
attract those that may not share our sense of membership and trust.

Our thanks to all of the members for their continued interest in making the
Premium-Rx List possible.

Jan and Greg



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