i got to see an Armored TIV in Kansas the other day. Cool vehicle !! They have 2 meter equipment on board too!!! Here is a web site for a similar TIV operation... http://www.sky-chaser.com/mwcl2005.htm They even have an up todate log of their activities. If you want to see the pix i took of the one in KS. Send me an eMail Paul w0rw at aol.com