[PaQSO] Logging Dupes

[Bob Schreibmaier]

Exactly right, Blair!  Can't speak for how the log adjudicators
work it for PQP, but in the major contests, the station who logged
it wrong is likely going to get dinged for a busted QSO plus
penalty QSOs.  Really easy to find busted QSOs with electronic
log checking.

The bottom line is this: ALWAYS log dupes.  There's no good reason
not to.

73,
Bob
K3PH

On Thu, 07 Oct 2010 14:12:27 -0400, k3yd at aol.com wrote:
> Typical problem in contesting is that Station A thinks he has worked
> Station B, while Station B thinks he has not worked Station A.  It
happens
> frequently with similar calls.  When KY3D and I both operated PAQP we had
> that problem too often.
> 
> I recall one time, after just getting into the contest late Saturday
> afternoon, I was told that I was a "Dupe" on my SECOND attempted QSO. 
The
> other station kept arguing that I had given him #243 ERI an hour before,
> and he would not work me as I tried to give him #2 NHA.  (Obviously he
had
> logged KY3D as K3YD.)
> 
> My practice, like some others in this group, is to log them all and let
the
> computer handle the scoring.  With computer logging, the duplicate will
> clearly stand out as a 0-point QSO.
> 
> 73,  Blair
> 
> 
> 
> 
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Michael Coslo <mjc5 at psu.edu>
> To: PA QP <PaQSO at mailman.qth.net>
> Sent: Thu, Oct 7, 2010 11:49 am
> Subject: Re: [PaQSO] Dupe Sheet from N1MM
> 
> 
> 
> n Oct 6, 2010, at 7:03 PM, MARK KEMPISTY wrote:
>> With computer logging it is in your benefit to log dupes.  Dave Robbins
>> K1TTT
> one of the premiere contestors in the world) has a short note at the end
of
> the 
> 1MM manual about why you MUST log dupes. If its good for him its good for
> the 
> est of us. I have been working dupes since I read this over 8 years ago.
> I certainly respect Dave and his opinions a lot, but he doesn't set the
> metric 
> or us.
> And yes, if a person logs dupes, and sends that log in, the main thing it
> does 
> s make more work for the log checkers.
> 
>  My personal experience is that I hear too many running stations waste 
>  time trying to explain the dupe. In that amount of time they could have
>  easily
> orked two or three more stations with one of them probably being me. That
> would 
> et me move on to the next QSO.  The ones that are working dupes never
break
> 
> tride and just may have eliminated a logging penalty.
> There are certainly two or more sides to every issue. Certainly it can be
> an 
> nconvenience to wait to QSO with someone. But it can also be an
> inconvenience 
> o sift through duplicate contacts. Fortunately there really aren't that
> many 
> ince the ascendancy of computerized logging.
> My own personal method of dealing with dupes is to tell the person they
are
> a 
> upe, and move on. I don't need to explain anything.
> I use N1MM at home and WB3W while mobile. It doesn't allow me to log
dupes,
> so 
> hat kind of makes it a nuisance to have to log them.
> 
>  73 de Mike N3LI -
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