[PaQSO] Logging Dupes

k3yd at aol.com k3yd at aol.com
Thu Oct 7 14:12:27 EDT 2010


Typical problem in contesting is that Station A thinks he has worked Station B, while Station B thinks he has not worked Station A.  It happens frequently with similar calls.  When KY3D and I both operated PAQP we had that problem too often.

I recall one time, after just getting into the contest late Saturday afternoon, I was told that I was a "Dupe" on my SECOND attempted QSO.  The other station kept arguing that I had given him #243 ERI an hour before, and he would not work me as I tried to give him #2 NHA.  (Obviously he had logged KY3D as K3YD.)

My practice, like some others in this group, is to log them all and let the computer handle the scoring.  With computer logging, the duplicate will clearly stand out as a 0-point QSO.

73,  Blair




-----Original Message-----
From: Michael Coslo <mjc5 at psu.edu>
To: PA QP <PaQSO at mailman.qth.net>
Sent: Thu, Oct 7, 2010 11:49 am
Subject: Re: [PaQSO] Dupe Sheet from N1MM



n Oct 6, 2010, at 7:03 PM, MARK KEMPISTY wrote:
> With computer logging it is in your benefit to log dupes.  Dave Robbins K1TTT 
one of the premiere contestors in the world) has a short note at the end of the 
1MM manual about why you MUST log dupes. If its good for him its good for the 
est of us. I have been working dupes since I read this over 8 years ago.
I certainly respect Dave and his opinions a lot, but he doesn't set the metric 
or us.
And yes, if a person logs dupes, and sends that log in, the main thing it does 
s make more work for the log checkers.

 My personal experience is that I hear too many running stations waste 
 time trying to explain the dupe. In that amount of time they could have easily 
orked two or three more stations with one of them probably being me. That would 
et me move on to the next QSO.  The ones that are working dupes never break 
tride and just may have eliminated a logging penalty.
There are certainly two or more sides to every issue. Certainly it can be an 
nconvenience to wait to QSO with someone. But it can also be an inconvenience 
o sift through duplicate contacts. Fortunately there really aren't that many 
ince the ascendancy of computerized logging.
My own personal method of dealing with dupes is to tell the person they are a 
upe, and move on. I don't need to explain anything.
I use N1MM at home and WB3W while mobile. It doesn't allow me to log dupes, so 
hat kind of makes it a nuisance to have to log them.

 73 de Mike N3LI -
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