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Re: Goody K3NG comments:

I, for one, am not saying operating QRP is easy. I know that holding a frequency can be hard at meduim power in many contests, let alone QRP. All I am saying is that the QRP stations are in competition with other QRP stations, at least for the EPA and WPA awards. For the other awards, Rover, Portable and Mobile, indivudual county certificates, the X2 mult makes it neigh impossible for the QRO and/or medium power station to compete with a serious QRP station. 

I disagree with the comments about changing the scoring of CW QSO's, except to say that 160/80 meter CW QSO's should be scored the same as any other CW QSO. It is my experience that I can rack up about 1.3 to 1.5 more SSB QSO's per hour than CW QSO's, given all else being equal. I would say the better scoring method for QSO's would be 2 points for SSB and 3 points for CW (in other words, the 1.5 to 1 ratio). The logic for 3 and 2 is only for the convience of the software writers. But that's another story (battle?) for another day.

Why is there always a need to "stop the discussions...." of issues here? 

Finally, as to "......If anything, the out-for-blood QRO contesters should see the QRP 
> multiplier competition as a challenge....". Hey, it's a CONTEST. There are no more QRO contesters "out-for-blood" than QRP and medium power stations. The very nature of a contest is to try to win......as if that needed to be stated.

I have my opinion, you have yours Goody, others have theirs. Discussing them is not a bad thing.

With all due respect......

Ed/WA3SES 
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From: Goody K3NG <goody.k3ng at gmail.com> 

> >I believe the QRP multiplier should go to the receiving station, not 
> the QRP station! The receiver strains to pick out the weak station from 
> the noise level or from the QRM. The QRP station has the easy job. 
> 
> Have you ever operated QRP? Ever held a frequency calling CQ while QRP, 
> have some full gallon station do a "QRL?" and you QRL back five times 
> and then they start up CQ TEST right on top of you anyway? Ever operate 
> QRP and have the QRO op who just gave you a 599 plus just about faint 
> when you tell him you're running five watts? 
> 
> > A QRP station requires less mechanical work and electronic skills to 
> manage than does a QRO station. 
> 
> What if a QRP operator builds an Elecraft K2 kit and the QRO operator is 
> running an out-of-the-box Yaeicowood Mega-Rig with an Auto-Tune 
> Amplifier? The QRO station required more credit card skills than the 
> QRP station, and the QRP op did all the mechanical work and had all the 
> electronic skills! Sure, not all QRP stations are homebrew or kit 
> built, but show me how many QRO stations have homebrew rigs and amps. I 
> can buy an amp on the Internet right now, install the 220V outlet, and 
> be QRO by the weekend. Likewise, you can turn off your amp and turn 
> down your barefoot rig to 5 watts right now. 
> 
> > If desired, place the QRP stations in a separate class,but do not 
> multiply a QRP score by 2! 
> 
> Fine with me. If it will stop the discussions we have each year over 
> the QRP multiplier, please by all means DO IT. While we're at it, let's 
> eliminate the x1.5 CW point multiplier because everyone knows CW has a 
> 17dB advantage over phone and it's easier to make a run of CW contacts 
> than phone. Also, why the x2 point multiplier for 80/160 CW QSOs? It 
> requires more patience and skill to make a contact on 15 meters during 
> the bottom of the sunspot cycle than it does on 80 meters at night. 
> Don't even get me started on the x2 RTTY and PSK point multiplier. 
> Digital was supposed to kill the PA QSO party and there was much 
> gnashing of teeth and people were tearing their clothes over its 
> introduction two or three years ago. If anything we should deduct 
> points for running digital! It's evil, EVIL, I tell you! Sorry...time 
> for my meds. 
> 
> > I lost winning single op class for the PA QSO party a few years ago 
> by that 2 X factor given to a QRP station in Washington County, PA. I 
> had the highest raw score with out the massaging of the points. The PA 
> QSO Party should be a capitalistic contest,not enforced socialism. 
> 
> It's a "capitalist contest" as you put it; you had the freedom to run 
> QRP and profit from the QRP multiplier. And by your own admission, QRP 
> doesn't require as much mechanical work or electronic skills, and 
> everyone else is doing the work, so it should have been a no-brainer 
> decision for you to run QRP. Using your logic, it should be easy for 
> superior QRO ops to do even better than the current crop of QRP ops 
> simply by running QRP. 
> 
> I assume you were running QRO that year. What if you would have beaten 
> a medium power class station? Could they complain you held an unfair 
> advantage by running QRO and thus netting more contacts due to the 
> stronger signal? 
> 
> >The PA QSO Party should be a capitalistic contest, not enforced 
> socialism. 
> 
> No, it should be neither. 
> 
> >He was running 10 watts to a folded, shortened, compromised dipole on 
> 75 meters, in the basement of his high rise apartment house in the 
> middle of a large English city. I should have gotten a bonus 100 X point 
> for that one. 
> 
> We have this tired argument nearly every year. I should get bonus 
> points for the old man from Florida who answers my CQ PA DE K3NG TEST 
> and returns with his name, RST 599 (three times just to make sure I got 
> it), location (twice), weather and his FISTS, QCWA, J-38 key serial 
> numbers, and his 10-10 number even though we're on 20 meters. I should 
> get bonus points for sitting by 15 minutes trying to work a guy in a 
> rare county who can't handle a pileup to save his life and works about 
> one station every three minutes. I should get bonus points for the dead 
> receiver QRO station that stepped on my calling frequency and forced me 
> off, even after I QRLed fifty times. And then there's the guy I had to 
> copy with the bug who's running a 1:9 dit to dah length ratio or the guy 
> with the spark gap rig who's 3 khz away I finally had a QSO with after 
> he called me six times. We all have stories about the PITA contact we 
> made and deserved a medal for. 
> 
> If anything, the out-for-blood QRO contesters should see the QRP 
> multiplier competition as a challenge just like fellow contesters, bad 
> propagation, local QRM, a nagging XYL, and weddings that inevitably fall 
> on PA QSO. That's life, and it's what makes it interesting. 
> 
> Goody 
> K3NG 
> 
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