[PaQSO] VE section list

[k3yd at aol.com]

Hi Ron,



It was my impression that PAQP has been recognizing the various 
provinces of MAR individually for about 10 years--thus avoiding the 
"silliness" of disenfranchising two Canadian "states."  Perhaps it is 
time (next year, not in 2007!) to add the NU mult?

With respect to PQ/QC . . . work them first, worry later!

73,  Blair k3yd


-----Original Message-----
From: Ron Notarius W3WN <wn3vaw at verizon.net>
To: paqso at mailman.qth.net
Sent: Mon, 1 Oct 2007 10:34 pm
Subject: RE: [PaQSO] VE section list



According to the Canada Post site at http://www.canadapost.ca, the 
official
abbreviation for Quebec is QC. PQ may still work as an alternative but 
is
officially considered an obsolete postal code.

...hey, don't argue with me, it's their postal system!...

Now, regarding the sections: Remember that historically, the out of 
state
multipliers for the contest were the ARRL sections. Back in the days of 
the
Canadian Division (which became the CRRL and then merged with CARF to 
form
RAC way back when), VE1 VO1 & VO2 were the Maritime Section. It was one 
of
the few sections that included more than one state/province/political 
entity
(another was the old Caribbean section, which is now the separate PR & 
VI
sections). And remember that at that time, several provinces shared the 
VE1
prefix, VY2 & VE9 not yet having been assigned to them.

Technically, I think only the Pacific section (Hawaii, Guam, Saipan 
etc.) is
still like this, although as a practical matter, we probably only log 
KH6/7
stations for the section and the other KH entities (KH2, KH0, etc.) as 
DX.
Maybe we shouldn't, but that's another story.

So with that in mind, I must regrettably disagree with my fellow K3CR 
alum
that the MAR section was "silly."

However, with all due respect to history, perhaps the time has come to
re-address the Canadian multipliers. With two weeks (minus) to go, I
wouldn't change anything for the 2007 contest, but this may be something
that can be addressed for 2008. And if we can come to a friendly 
consensus,
that can give Mike & crew one less headache to deal with for next year. 
So
with that (2008) in mind, how would you handle the Canadian mults? Each
Canadian Province? VO1 & VO2 as one mult or two? One mult for the
Territories or three? And in the unlikely event one or both would be 
active
at the same time, would you count CY9 & CY0 as mults (I wouldn't) or DX 
(I
would)? Or -- just stick with the historical RAC (nee ARRL/CRRL) 
sections,
and clarify exactly what the sections are?

73

-----Original Message-----
From: paqso-bounces at mailman.qth.net
[mailto:paqso-bounces at mailman.qth.net]On Behalf Of Matthew Steger
Sent: Monday, October 01, 2007 5:20 PM
To: paqso at mailman.qth.net
Subject: RE: [PaQSO] VE section list


Quebec is normally PQ

The rest:
Alberta AB
British Columbia BC
Manitoba MB
New Brunswick NB
Newfoundland/Labrador NL
Northwest Territories NT
Nova Scotia NS
Nunavut NU
Ontario ON
Prince Edward Island PE
Saskatchewan SK
Yukon YT

-----Original Message-----
 From: paqso-bounces at mailman.qth.net 
[mailto:paqso-bounces at mailman.qth.net]
On Behalf Of k3yd at aol.com
Sent: Monday, October 01, 2007 5:16 PM
To: k3ct at verizon.net; paqso at mailman.qth.net
Subject: Re: [PaQSO] VE section list

How about Canadian postal abbreviations?

The official two-letter [Canadian government] abbreviations for the
provinces and territories in Canada.


Alberta AB
British Columbia BC
Manitoba MB
New Brunswick NB
Newfoundland and Labrador NL
Northwest Territories NT
Nova Scotia NS
Nunavut NU
Ontario ON
Prince Edward Island PE
Quebec QC
Saskatchewan SK
Yukon YT

This breakdown avoids the of lumping NB, NS and PEI together as
Maritime (MAR). The MAR mult of three provinces is as silly as if we
lumped our six "First District" states into a single mult called NED
(New EnglanD).

73, Blair k3yd

-----Original Message-----
From: k3ct at verizon.net
To: paqso at mailman.qth.net
Sent: Mon, 1 Oct 2007 11:48 am
Subject: [PaQSO] VE section list



What are the official VE section exchanges for the PA QSO Party? The
rules say
RAC sections. I found several references to RAC sections on the web and
they
vary in the number.

Could this list be added to the rules so the VE's know what to send for
an
exchange?

John
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