[PaQSO] Further - Club Competition

[Jade's Technical Services]

Ron:
   oh I see, I was going to tell you there is a problem with your callsign,
but the e address has it right.
   later, Jim   not sure how I am operating this year.  went vintage last
year,
maybe get some guys in our club to do something besides 2m ht's .


----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Ron Notarius W3WN" <wn3vaw at verizon.net>
To: "Richard A Dech" <ka3mou at enter.net>; "Ron Notarius W3WN"
<wn3vaw at verizon.net>; <paqso at mailman.qth.net>
Sent: Thursday, July 20, 2006 9:15 AM
Subject: Re: [PaQSO] Further - Club Competition


> Sorry, I should have been clearer on this:
>
> There should be another way to send in a club roster OTHER than it being
submitted from a club Secretary or President, SPECIFICALLY in those cases
where that officer declines to do so for whatever reason.
>
> No one should be denied a chance to "win" their club, especially amongst a
friendly competition of club members, because someone other than the
contesters refused to be bothered.
>
> Alternatives that come to mind would be a submitted copy of a printed
roster, a link to a club web site showing a membership roster, a newsletter
printing, or something else on the same lines that shows the club membership
in such a way that it can be easily verified.  AND, it should be done in
such a way as to minimize the impact on the log checkers and the Pa QSO
Party Committee, they have too much to do as it is.
>
> ...
>
> As far as the power level, well, there will always be those who "fudge"
the power.  It's not right.  So how do you stop it?
>
> 73, ron w3wn
>
>
> From: Richard A Dech <ka3mou at enter.net>
> Date: 2006/07/20 Thu AM 08:06:02 CDT
> To: Ron Notarius W3WN <wn3vaw at verizon.net>, paqso at mailman.qth.net
> Subject: [PaQSO] Further - Club Competition
>
> Hi,
>
> My name and call sign is: Dick / KA3MOU and I am a member of
Delaware-Lehigh
> Amateur Radio Club.  I am writing to let you know I remember the time our
> club submitted a club directory for the PA QSO party.  Ray / W3TDF use to
> check the club members score and have me send him our current club
directory
> so he could send in the club's score along with the club directory to
NARC.
> I am very much for sending in a club directory for club scores in the PA
QSO
> party.  It is ashamed but I feel in today's world there would be cheating
> just to get a club Trophy.  I also feel that some hams saying there were
> QRP, were not operating QRP.  I done putting my 2 cents in.
>
> Dick / KA3MOU
> ka3mou at arrl.net
>
> ----- Original Message ----- 
> From: "Ron Notarius W3WN" <wn3vaw at verizon.net>
> To: <paqso at mailman.qth.net>
> Sent: Thursday, July 20, 2006 8:55 AM
> Subject: Re: [PaQSO] Further - Club Competition
>
>
> > Don't remind me!
> >
> > Before joining SHARC (now WASH) many moons ago, I was a member of
another
> > area club.  Just could not get the club secretary to submit the roster
to
> > NARC.  Since he was interested in contesting, he couldn't be bothered.
> > Probably cost me a sheet or two of wallpaper... and the other 1 - 3 guys
> > in the club who operated in PaQSO so-so @ the time also never had a
chance
> > at a certificate either.
> >
> > Requiring the membership roster is a good idea, it prevents a ringer
from
> > artificially increasing a club aggregate score (usually on the lines of
> > "I'm not a member of your/any club, so, since you're my buddies anyway,
go
> > ahead and count me in") or from someone less than honorable claiming a
> > fake club membership to win a club from an actual member.  But there has
> > to be a better or another way to accomplish the same goal.
> >
> > 73, ron w3wn
> > ------------------------------
> > From: w3tdf at juno.com
> > Date: 2006/07/18 Tue PM 10:41:32 CDT
> > To: paqso at mailman.qth.net
> > Subject: [PaQSO] Further - Club Competition
> >
> > For what it's worth, regarding entries by non-club participants;
> >
> > Part of the Nittany requirements, back then, was that, in order
> > to be included in the agregate club score, the entrant must be
> > listed on a club roster which had to be submitted each year.
> >
> > Ray, W3TDF
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