[PaQSO] Further - Club Competition

[Ron Notarius W3WN]

Sorry, I should have been clearer on this:

There should be another way to send in a club roster OTHER than it being submitted from a club Secretary or President, SPECIFICALLY in those cases where that officer declines to do so for whatever reason.

No one should be denied a chance to "win" their club, especially amongst a friendly competition of club members, because someone other than the contesters refused to be bothered.

Alternatives that come to mind would be a submitted copy of a printed roster, a link to a club web site showing a membership roster, a newsletter printing, or something else on the same lines that shows the club membership in such a way that it can be easily verified.  AND, it should be done in such a way as to minimize the impact on the log checkers and the Pa QSO Party Committee, they have too much to do as it is.

...

As far as the power level, well, there will always be those who "fudge" the power.  It's not right.  So how do you stop it?

73, ron w3wn


From: Richard A Dech <ka3mou at enter.net>
Date: 2006/07/20 Thu AM 08:06:02 CDT
To: Ron Notarius W3WN <wn3vaw at verizon.net>, paqso at mailman.qth.net
Subject: [PaQSO] Further - Club Competition

Hi,

My name and call sign is: Dick / KA3MOU and I am a member of Delaware-Lehigh 
Amateur Radio Club.  I am writing to let you know I remember the time our 
club submitted a club directory for the PA QSO party.  Ray / W3TDF use to 
check the club members score and have me send him our current club directory 
so he could send in the club's score along with the club directory to NARC. 
I am very much for sending in a club directory for club scores in the PA QSO 
party.  It is ashamed but I feel in today's world there would be cheating 
just to get a club Trophy.  I also feel that some hams saying there were 
QRP, were not operating QRP.  I done putting my 2 cents in.

Dick / KA3MOU
ka3mou at arrl.net

----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Ron Notarius W3WN" <wn3vaw at verizon.net>
To: <paqso at mailman.qth.net>
Sent: Thursday, July 20, 2006 8:55 AM
Subject: Re: [PaQSO] Further - Club Competition


> Don't remind me!
>
> Before joining SHARC (now WASH) many moons ago, I was a member of another 
> area club.  Just could not get the club secretary to submit the roster to 
> NARC.  Since he was interested in contesting, he couldn't be bothered. 
> Probably cost me a sheet or two of wallpaper... and the other 1 - 3 guys 
> in the club who operated in PaQSO so-so @ the time also never had a chance 
> at a certificate either.
>
> Requiring the membership roster is a good idea, it prevents a ringer from 
> artificially increasing a club aggregate score (usually on the lines of 
> "I'm not a member of your/any club, so, since you're my buddies anyway, go 
> ahead and count me in") or from someone less than honorable claiming a 
> fake club membership to win a club from an actual member.  But there has 
> to be a better or another way to accomplish the same goal.
>
> 73, ron w3wn
> ------------------------------
> From: w3tdf at juno.com
> Date: 2006/07/18 Tue PM 10:41:32 CDT
> To: paqso at mailman.qth.net
> Subject: [PaQSO] Further - Club Competition
>
> For what it's worth, regarding entries by non-club participants;
>
> Part of the Nittany requirements, back then, was that, in order
> to be included in the agregate club score, the entrant must be
> listed on a club roster which had to be submitted each year.
>
> Ray, W3TDF
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