[PaQSO] CL Rules?

[ed.miske at kennametal.com]

IMHO, KB3EIA, (and some others) are right..........you're on the county 
line or you're not on the county line. 

If you want to work a "tri" or "quad" county line, you have to get to 
"that spot". Just because it's on the side of a 5000 foot cliff where 
rattle snakes live, you can't say "well, I'm as close as I can safely 
get". 

If  you want to work a "dual" county line, there are, at a minimum, 121 
such possibilities. And they are, in most cases, many miles long, so 
finding a "safe" spot should be possible in most instances.

Spin it any way you want......unsafe......rules unclear.....whatever. If 
you can't or won't make a (sometimes difficult) effort to be "right 
there", then don't claim it.

That's what I think.....

Ed/WA3SES

paqso-bounces at mailman.qth.net wrote on 10/10/2005 09:40:28 PM:

> In a message dated 10/10/2005 7:20:57 PM Eastern Daylight Time, 
> vze3v8dt at verizon.net writes:
> > Pete,
> > While the written rules do not specify to the satisfaction of all of 
> > those who have this and a variety of other questions and the rules (as 

> > near as I can tell) have not been changed, updated or up for vote of 
the 
> > participants of the activity, it seems that we have already received 
an 
> > answer to the question from the head of the Chairman of the PA QSO 
Party 
> > as follows:
> > 
> >   And when in doubt, ask me. Voice of reason or not, I am the one  to 
> > judge.
> >   - 73 de Mike KB3EIA -
> > 
> > So, the way I read it, plan your opertation, explain your situation to 

> > Mike and he will either qualify or disqualify accordingly.  On the 
other 
> > hand, if you plan your operation, operate under the assumption that it 

> > will be close enough, and then find out afterward that the operation 
was 
> > not "close enough" for Mike's okay, then shame on you.  However, at 
that 
> > point it would be difficult to change everyone's log who already has 
it 
> > marked as a county line station as well, so Mike would have to deal 
with 
> > that as well. 
> > Again, it seems quite clear that while everyone here has opinions on 
the 
> > subject, at this time Mike's is the only one that counts.  Somebody 
has 
> > to ultimately step up and be responsible for making the decision, and 
> > Mike seems to have done so.  Any problems with that  -- talk to Mike 
> > about it!
> > 
>     Mark,
>     It it were so clear, there would have never been a question that 
prompts 
> so much well-considered discussion.  The *Rules* of anything formally 
> organized are written ahead of time, in order to leave no questions.
> The function of 
> judges and referees is to determine if the already penned *Rules* have 
been 
> followed.
>    My point is, if there is no *Rule* specifying a provision or 
prohibition, 
> (and in this case what's clear is that there ain't) then the Chief 
Supreme 
> Almighty Grand Pooh-Bah himself will have a difficult time enforcing
> an unwritten 
> rule, (known as opinion) and leaves the door effectively open to claims 
of 
> bias.  Who wants that when there's a solution?
>   How could everyone not benefit if this was put this to bed by having 
the 
> rules say, "Your SO239 connector has to be ON the county line."  Or,
> "50 feet", 
> or "42½ meters", or "RHP from the known CL."  Something so the poor guys 

> aren't praying they won't get DQ'd.
>   I'm not trying to write a rule; I'm saying here's an opportunity for 
Mike 
> and the BOD of the sponsor to help the hardest working guys of all, 
> that's all. 
>  It's one of those things that may be unfair if not impossible to 
address 
> case by case afterwards.  No matter what it would say, it'd still be
> fair because 
> everyone can, or has to use it.
>    I hope Mike doesn't think I'm trying to put him on the spot.  I'm 
really 
> not.
>                                                                    -Pete
> 
> P.S. Did you recognize anyone in that lager fueled discussion?    8-)
>        Glad you made it home safely.  Good to work you in POT.
> 
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