[PaQSO] CL Rules?
Bill G. K3SV
k3sv at pa.net
Mon Oct 10 18:49:59 EDT 2005
Ah, in the spirit of the "hobby"....if I'm operating at or near the
county line sign....I think I would say I was on the county line. That
is, assuming I stick to the state and township roads. If I hike up into
the boonies and set up a station, just for the fun of the PA QSO party,
I doubt that most folks care whether I'm squatting on the geographic
division of one county or another. CU next year. 73 Bill
TwelveVDC at aol.com wrote:
>n3ntj at earthlink.net wrote:
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>> How close does a station need to be to a CL to be considered CL?
>> I worked a station that was within eyesite of the SCH county line while he
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>was in COL.
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>> Will this count as a CL contact? What are the rules for this?
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> If this thread didn't get so much ink, I wouldn't have thought so much
>about it.
> But the more I do, the better it deserves an *Official* answer, no matter
>how insightful or reasonable our experienced opinions may be.
> Permit me to elaborate just a bit while playing the Devil's Advocate.
> When this subject came up last in my circle, it was after drinking a lot of
>beer. So we had a bit of fun with it by inventing silly philosophical
>arguments trying to outdo each other. It went something like this:
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> W3ABCD: "Ok, a wire antenna might be easy to physically string across a
>County Line. But if it's a beam, what part of it counts? Only the driven
>element? The director or reflector don't actually produce the signal..."
> N23EFG: "What if you have a high SWR and it turns out it's the COAX that's
>radiating most of your signal?"
> K3WXYZ: "Actually, the signal doesn't originate in the antenna at all.
>It's the SO239 connector on the back of the radio that has to be on the County
>Line."
> W3H6Q: "I think it's where the OPERATOR actually sits down that must meet
>the criteria."
> A3LMNO: "You're all wrong! The signal originates in the MICROPHONE!"
> W32PAA: "No it don't. It's your lips that hafta be on the county line.
>Just shove a GPS receiver up your nose to verify your position."
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> We might've went further, but good taste dictates I stop here. The point
>is, although we all understand the intention of this rule, there is wiggle
>room for *interpretation* (read, flexibility) because there is little
>documentation on the actual application. Try looking it up yourself and see.
> It's not target practice, where the bullseye is one square inch across and
>really does matter. Physics gives the signal a broad enough pattern that a
>few feet on either end don't really matter. Our /R's, /M's and /P's do us all a
>tremendous service activating counties in all conditions without the need for
>us in warm dry shacks splitting hairs.
> In the absence of specific written rules, I advocate a reasonable proximity
>clause. Let's call it the "RHP" for Rock Hurling Provision." (I welcome a
>more clever or sarcastic acronym.) If a CL op can barehandedly hurl a stone
>from his antenna base over the border marker, he's close enough to claim the two
>or more CL positions. This may allow him to find a safer place to set up,
>and does not corrupt the true spirit of the rule. The effort to get there in
>the first place has already been honorably spent.
> I expect there are some Type A's who will thoroughly trash my thoughts,
>and that's fine. But then they should press the contest sponsor to address the
>issue through specific regulation so the matter can be put to rest once and
>for all. Otherwise it will become, "Don't Ask / Don't Tell."
> Maybe this is a solution without a problem, I dunno.
> Regardless, no flames please! I'm just a fun-loving op spending my $.02
>worth.
> 73. Fraternally, Pete / NL7XM (NHA)
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> P.S. If my call looks familiar, thanks for the point this weekend!
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