[PaQSO] Logging /M /R or combinations thereof.

Thu, 2 Oct 2003 13:06:04 -0400

I don't think you're missing anything, Bob.  You were correct when you said
it would allow a /M and a /R station to be logged on the same band, same
mode, same county (even though it is a dupe).  It allowed this because
computers use the absolute literal interpretation of callsign/M and
callsign/R and determined that these two items are not the same.  So, you
were right, the program was working correctly according to my explanation.
Unfortunately, this exacting interpretation of the two different entries
caused an error (a dupe) to be entered into the log.

So, I made a few changes to the way the program handles /M and /R entries.
When you enter a callsign/M or callsign/R station it looks to see if that
station was previously worked on the current band, mode and county
regardless of whether it was mobile, rover, portable or fixed.  Basically it
dupe checks by ignoring anything to the right of the "/" mark.  This,
however, necessitates that you *only* enter /M or /R after the call.  You
can enter other stuff but it's going to be ignored for dupe checking
purposes.  This might not be the best way to handle this from a convenience
standpoint but it was the simplest way to keep the program from logging
dupes considering the contest is only nine days away.  I will review the
dupe checking of mobiles and rovers in greater detail later in the "off
season".

If you were to enter a mobile or rover as callsign/NHA on 40m PH and later
try to enter him as callsign/LEH also on 40m PH regardless of what you enter
in the county field it will show a dupe because it's not going to use
anything on the right side of the "/" mark.  By entering the /M or /R it
causes the program to dupe check using the call, band, mode, *and* the five
possible counties (if it's a county line station).

So, you can't enter callsign/NHA for a mobile or rover with the latest
version of my program (version 6.5.2) because it will find a dupe with
callsign/LEH because it ignores everything to the right of the "/" mark.
Just use the /M or /R, enter the county (or multiple counties) in the county
field and the program will dupe check that way.

As a reminder, if you come across a situation where you contact someone and
you show them as a dupe but they swear you're not a dupe in their log
(busted call or whatever) you can enter /DUP after the call and the program
will still log it.  However, it won't use any of the data in that entry when
calculating the score unless you edit the entry and remove the /DUP later.

73
Don - KA3JWE

----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Bob Crossland" <[email protected]>
To: "'Don Reamer'" <[email protected]>; "PAQSO Reflector"
<[email protected]>
Sent: Thursday, October 02, 2003 11:22 AM
Subject: RE: [PaQSO] Logging /M /R or combinations thereof.

> I must be missing something Don.  If you work the same station, in the
same
> county, twice, but affix a /R and then a /M to the call, it certainly will
> accept it as a valid contact, as it should (even though it's a dupe, the
> entry is different).  Now if you attach the county to that same call,
> instead of simply the /R or /M, then I would hope your software will tag
> this a dupe.
>
> What I think I want to say here is that based on your email scenario
below,
> your program is working correctly.
>
> If I'm missing something, I apologize.
>
> Best regards.
>
> Bob, N3FR  (port WAR)
>
> Bob Crossland
> Sr. Product Manager
> TelCove
> 121 Champion Way
> Canonsburg, PA  15317
> (724) 743-9576
> [email protected]
> http://www.telcove.com
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Don Reamer [mailto:[email protected]]
> Sent: Wednesday, October 01, 2003 9:09 PM
> To: PAQSO Reflector
> Subject: [PaQSO] Logging /M /R or combinations thereof.
>
>
> There's always some scenario that crops up that you never even thought
about
> when it comes to operating a contest.  This business with operating rover
> and then mobile on your way to the next rover location never crossed my
mind
> when I assembled all the little 1's and 0's.  So, when I started to read
> about this newest wrinkle with the PA party, I started experimenting with
my
> program to see what it would do under the circumstances.  What I found was
> that it *would* log a /M and /R on the same band, same mode, same county
> which would be a dupe.  So, I'm in the process of working out a solution
for
> that.  Unfortunately, the duping process for mobiles is rather complex and
> time is short and I don't know if I can have it completed by contest time.
> If I do, I'll most certainly post it here.
>
> Don - KA3JWE
>
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