[OKDXA] RIB

[N5OK]

Roger,

You don't need my input.  You pretty much nailed it.  These remote stations
have been operating all over the place the last few years and they are
counting them for DXCC.

Coy C Day, N5OK
20685 SW 29
Union City, OK 73090
H(405) 483-5632 C(405) 448-2368
n5ok at arrl.net


On Sun, Feb 5, 2023 at 8:09 AM Roger Simpson <rksimpson1 at cox.net> wrote:

> I think the key question is what is the meaning of “POWER RELAY DEVICES
> and REPEATER DEVICES” that are both prohibited by DXCC rule 6. I think a
> plain reading of these rules allows remote controlled rigs as long as the
> transmitter and receiver are on the ground in the DXCC entity and the only
> communication to the transmitter / receiver is via non ham radio means such
> as the internet.
>
> I don’t think DXCC rule 8 prohibits having a “remote station” from being
> used as long as that remote location has both its transmitter and receiver
> physically on the DXCC entity.
>
> Bottom line I think the rule does not disallow remote operations from an
> offshore ship as long as the offshore ship is not doing either transmit or
> receive functions on amateur radio bands but only remotely controlling the
> on-island transmitter / receiver via some other means – such as a landline,
> or the internet. All antennas for either receive or transmit have to be on
> the island.
>
> I am not necessarily in favor of allowing “remote operations” from an
> offshore ship but I think a strict reading of the rules doesn’t preclude
> them. One could make an argument that the current rules are too vague to
> adjudicate this question.
>
> An auxiliary question is:  Say I work Monaco via a remote station on the
> Coast of Maine. Could I claim the QSO for as being valid for DXCC for
> Monaco?   I think the de-facto situation is the answer is YES.
>
> I don’t think rule 8 which says that all stations contacted must be “land
> stations” applies to the hypothetical Bouvet case since in the proposed
> case the “station contacted” is on land even if that station is controlled
> by a nearby ship that is anchored.
>
> Coy would be an expert on this given his service on the ARRL the DX
> Advisory Committee.
>
> 73   Roger  K5RKS
> --------------------------------------------------------------
>
> Sent from Mail for Windows
>
> From: Jeff Martin
> Sent: Sunday, February 5, 2023 5:24 AM
> To: Oklahoma DX Association
> Subject: [OKDXA] RIB
>
> RIB - Radio in Box or Rig in Box
>    Whatever became of the RIB idea? Did ARRL DXCC give it a thumbs down
> or what? I recall there was some testing of the concept from a C6AGU
> operation and some financial support from the NCDXF, but I haven't heard
> anything about it for awhile...
>    The present situation with the Bouvet operation would seem like an
> ideal candidate for such an operation. Here's a link to an article with
> some basic info: https://www.ncdxf.org/newsletters/2021-SPRING.pdf .
>    Not sure that I am for or against the concept... Remote operation is
> now allowed... This would be from a boat at anchor, but the transmitter
> is on land... If it was not allowed, what was the reason, anyone know?
>    Just stirring the pot a bit... hi...
>
> 73,
> Jeff - K5WE
>
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