[OKDXA] Post on DX-World

[Kim Elmore]

In all sincerity, I want to hear refutations to the points he raised. I don’t do digital modes. Not because I’m necessarily a Luddite, but be cause they currently hold little attraction for me. That may certainly change. I certainly appreciate how marvelously clever they are and how spectrum efficient! 

I simply enjoy the act of being a human UART with CW. One reason I like CW is because it’s much harder to be a monumental jerk on CW than on, say, SSB. CW jerks certainly exist and I hear them, but they are ineffective.  

So, in al sincerity: I’m open to being educated. Please refute the arguments made by VK4MA’s piece. I’m all ears!

73,

Kim N5OP 

"People that make music together cannot be enemies, at least as long as the music lasts." -- Paul Hindemith

> On Oct 26, 2021, at 12:11 PM, N5OK <coyday62 at gmail.com> wrote:
> 
> It is obvious that this guy has an axe to grind.  A lot of misinformation
> and omissions in his post.
> 
> I'll not try to answer his comments because here is where we are going with
> this.
> 
> Several US stations are running in automatic mode.  They are calling CQ on
> multiple bands at the same time 24 hours a day.  I won't mention any calls
> but you can find them by watching PSK Reporter.  I guess they are just
> maximizing their QSO totals.  Think about this. Set up a station with
> several rigs running FT8 in automatic mode. Set the antenna's where you
> think the props will be. Go to work and let them run.  When you come home
> from work, check to see if you have worked anything worthwhile.
> 
> For the dxpedition using automatic operation, I guess we should require
> them to remain in the country while their equipment is operating and maybe
> require them to check it once a day to make sure they are not causing
> unwanted interference.
> 
> So this begs the question, do we need operators at all.  Perhaps all we
> need are engineers to set up the ideal station and then check it
> periodically to make sure it is running right.  That could be done
> remotely.  Let's set up these stations on the rarest of entities and let
> them run so that everyone is on the Honor Roll.
> 
> This is obviously a difficult issue and we are not going to solve it here
> but it is more complicated than saying a monkey can press a key on the
> keyboard.
> 
> Coy
> 
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> 
>> On Tue, Oct 26, 2021 at 7:28 AM Kim Elmore <cw_de_n5op at sbcglobal.net> wrote:
>> 
>> This is an EXCELLENT piece. It hits nearly all the points I’ve heard
>> discussed. I admit that I fundamentally think the issue of human initiation
>> of computer-to-computer QSOS is silly. As he points out, we’re a technology
>> hobby. Let the technology take us to new experiences. I also agree that
>> there’s benefit: while the digital modes manage the QSOs, humans can manage
>> the truly manual modes, the equipment, and look after the total operation.
>> 
>> Just my $0.02.
>> 
>> 73 & CU In the Pileups,
>> 
>> Kim N5OP
>> 
>> "People that make music together cannot be enemies, at least as long as
>> the music lasts." -- Paul Hindemith
>> 
>>>> On Oct 26, 2021, at 5:10 AM, Jeff Martin <jeffk5we at gmail.com> wrote:
>>> 
>>> There is an interesting guest editorial by VK4MA posted on DX-World this
>>> morning. He tackles the FT8 automated QSO issue...
>>> 
>>> 73,
>>> Jeff - K5WE
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
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